November 8, 2004

JNAMSFTFY

Longtime Bungie fans will need no introduction or explanation as to the meaning of the letters above, but in case you've come in to this warm hovel from out in the cold, dark wasteland of the "other" game communities, I offer the following.

(NOTE: UPDATED 04-03-2006)
The comments are now locked, because 343 is a good number and this post needs to be cleaned up and started again at a later date. Check this post for a new start on the acronyms.

As far back as Marathon, Bungie has been putting an acronym on the boxes of their released products (games, soundtracks, etc.). The acronym is made up of the first letters of some phrase that was popular and/or otherwise notable within the Bungie offices during the development of whatever game/soundtrack it's on. You can read about the past acronyms here. The most up-to-date list of the acronyms and their Bungie-verified solutions is as follows.

Acronym Game Solution
DMUKYA Marathon Don't Make Us Kick Your Ass
MBIBTYB Marathon 2 My Bob Is Bigger Than Your Bob
TBWSAF Marathon ∞ and Trilogy Trick Bitch Whore Slut Ass Fucker
WACCSMD Myth Warcraft And Command & Conquer, Suck My Dick
MRTEFCFY Myth Soundtrack  
TATRTSTS Myth II  
WUBNMH Myth II Soundtrack What's Up, Bitch? Not Much, Holmes
SPMLOAS Myth Total Codex  
YYMMDBATC Myth TC Soundtrack Yummy, Yummy, Munchy, Munchy, Dwarven Bones Are Tasty Crunchy
ABTFIPASO5 Halo (GotY)  
SABABWL Halo Soundtrack  
ILWNL Halo PC  
JNAMSFTFY Halo 2  
EGATFIBGBCSIMAW Halo 2 Soundtrack Vol 1  
MNNGSBTFS Halo 2 Soundtrack Vol 1  
IOHBOY Halo 2 In-game map (Metropolis)  
SIOHBOY Halo 2 In-game credits  
TOFTMTWCLMB Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack  

(WACCSMD and WUBNMH have never been publicly acknowledged as correctly solved, but perhaps we can get some input here and finally nail those down ;-))

So, the one in the title of this post is from (you guessed it) the Limited Collectors Edition Halo 2 box. The ones that have been solved over the years have a certain 'Bungie' feel to them, so think a bit and take a guess. First one right gets automatic street cred and bragging rights, which ain't half bad. ;-)

Update: According to an official source, WUBNMH is correct except for one word.
Update 2: Max Hoberman, dashing Multiplayer Lead at Bungie, checks in with the following:

"I got your official confirmation right here. WACCSMD has been translated correctly. Foul mouthed Bungie!

TATRTSTS. Ah, that's a good guess, very much in the spirit of things. But it's wrong :-)

And yes, Mr. Sharumpe's suggestion is correct about EGATFIBGBCSIMAW being an acronym on the soundtrack.

MRTEFCFY is damn tough to crack. But I'll give you a clue. It came up in a conversation recently due to a certain completely unexpected relationship between Myth: TFL and Halo 2."

He also goes on to mention:

"The 15 letter one is a clue to a puzzle of sorts."

Update 3: MNNGSBTFS was first noticed (I think) here.
Update 4: IOHBOY and SIOHBOY have been noticed for awhile, also. Here is the first mention of either of them I can find.
Update 5: I kind of hate to add to this entry, since it's grown to completely useless proportions, but for the sake of continuity I'll add TOFTMTWCLMB here. ;-)

Posted by mnemesis at November 8, 2004 4:04 PM
Comments

Correction-- It's "Trick Bitch Whore Slut Ass Fucker."

Posted by: Alex Rosenberg on November 10, 2004 3:19 PM

Awesome! Thanks Alex, fixed now. Any others you'd like to help out on? ;-)

Posted by: mnemesis on November 10, 2004 3:22 PM

I don't know if this has been said, but the back of the normal Halo 2 case has the same acronym. What do all the Halo/Halo 2 Acronyms stand for?

Posted by: Brian on November 10, 2004 5:11 PM

Halo 2 Soundtrack acronym is (maybe):
EGATFIBGBCSIMAW

I have no clue as to the meaning...

Posted by: Mr. Sharumpe on November 10, 2004 5:16 PM

Halo 2 (LE) : JNAMSFTFY: "Jumbo Nobel Ass Mother Sucker Fuck The Fuck Yeah". Just a thought.

Posted by: Huaratron on November 10, 2004 5:31 PM

Just Not As Much Science Fiction To Fool You.
i don't think bungie would ust quite as much needless profanity as huaratron suggests.

Posted by: forkboy on November 10, 2004 5:53 PM

Could the Halo PC one be "I Like Windows, Not Linux"?

As for the new one, no clue whatsoever. :)

Posted by: Target4Hire on November 10, 2004 6:06 PM

Whopie. Stuff to update the trivia quiz with.

Posted by: poena.dare (not.dead.yet) on November 10, 2004 6:40 PM

P.S. Weren't we reasonably sure SPMLOAS stood for "Single Player Myth, Lots Of Additional Shit"?

Posted by: poena.dare (not.dead.yet) on November 10, 2004 6:48 PM

I've found out that the suggestion I had for TATRTSTS was way off base, so it gets demoted. WUBNMH is also "officially" not exactly correct, but it's close.

Posted by: mnemesis on November 10, 2004 6:48 PM

ILWNL stands for I like winning, not losing i think


It makes it a point quite frequently in the novels about how master chief never loses.

Posted by: snak3 on November 10, 2004 8:00 PM

for Halo PC acro: Its Lame When Nobody Listens

Posted by: JP on November 10, 2004 8:10 PM

"ILWNL" - I love windows 'n lagg :P

Posted by: kornman00 on November 10, 2004 8:54 PM

Focus on the 'J', how many J words can start a sentence or expression?

Posted by: Plastic Chicken on November 10, 2004 9:24 PM

SABABWL
Steve And Bob Are Big Whiney Losers?

(not that they are)

Posted by: Sean on November 10, 2004 9:29 PM

Just Not As Many Snaks For The First Y..(word?)

Posted by: Sean on November 10, 2004 9:31 PM

My thinkings with the Halo cover acronym involve a spoiler for halo 2 (kinda). So warnings before reading this.

The "S05" is making me think Station 05. As in another Halo. The ABTF makes me think something along the lines of "After Beathing the Flood".. i just am not sure about the IPA part...
Or maybe I'm just trying to find a serious answer.

Posted by: JeffB2006 on November 10, 2004 9:44 PM

I seem to remember one suggestion for TATRTSTS, "Total Annhilation, The Real-Time Strategy That Sucks", which seems in the same spirit as WACCSMD.

And 15 letters?!? Sheesh! ;-)

Posted by: mnemesis on November 10, 2004 10:59 PM

WUBNMH - perhaps "What's up Bitch? Not much, Ho.

Posted by: [Viperfish] on November 10, 2004 11:11 PM

WUBNMH - What's Up Bitch? Not Much Homie?

Posted by: Coolhand2 on November 10, 2004 11:29 PM

Damn, you guys are good at acronyms. WUBNHM could be What's up bitch? Not much honey. I know, I'm an idiot.

Slimby

Posted by: Slimby on November 10, 2004 11:30 PM

As for the WUBNMH, if it's only one word that's incorrect I'd guess it was What's Up Bro(ther)? Nothin' Much Holmes. Just my two cents

Posted by: Yams on November 11, 2004 12:48 AM

There was a reference made to halo and myth in one of the magazine articles in the November 2004 issue of Xbox Nation if I remember correctly. It stated that Master Chief and the protagonist from Myth were indeed one in the same. It is stated when XBN looks back at Halo 1 in an interview with one of the developers who is no longer employed by Bungie. I can't get to the mag right now but anyone who can, please post the reference.

Posted by: Loaded Dice on November 11, 2004 10:32 AM

That was Alex referring to the Security Officer from Marathon, ie not anything from Myth.

- Reiginko

Posted by: Reiginko on November 12, 2004 8:10 AM

How about : Just Not Another MicroSoft Fuck Tard, Fuck You!

Too me the MS is obvious. Bungie's penchant for explicatives also make sense, if only they had used a tkfd. It kinda looks like a puma.

ev

Posted by: Ev on November 12, 2004 2:25 PM

Or How About : Just Not Another Myth Sequel, Fuck The Fiscal Year!

ev

Posted by: ev on November 12, 2004 2:33 PM

Since it's only [is it?] on the Collector's Edition, perhaps:

Just Need Another Million Sales For This Fiscal Year

(Somebody really needs make up a good joke about H2 and Hummers.)

Posted by: Alex Rosenberg on November 12, 2004 3:06 PM

I've heard from others that it's the same one as on the regular box.

Posted by: mnemesis on November 12, 2004 5:03 PM

"MRTEFCFY is damn tough to crack. But I'll give you a clue. It came up in a conversation recently due to a certain completely unexpected relationship between Myth: TFL and Halo 2."

Something about My Rank?

Posted by: Andrew Nagy on November 12, 2004 8:08 PM

Just now a mother somewhere ftfy? :(

Posted by: flechette on November 14, 2004 7:22 PM

I seem to recall that TATRTSTS supposedly stood for To All Traditional Real Time Strategists: Tough Shit.

Posted by: Hangbrain on November 15, 2004 4:02 PM

"To All Traditional Real Time Strategists: Tough Shit" was the guess that Max said was, "very much in the spirit of things. But it's wrong."

Posted by: mnemesis on November 15, 2004 4:39 PM

JNAMSFTFY

Note the "MSFT" in the middle.

Just not a Microsoft Fiscal Year?

Posted by: Ross ills on November 15, 2004 9:07 PM

I have a strong belief that the long-ass Halo 2 Soundtrack acronym stands for the skulls found in the Halo 2 campaign:

EGATFIBGBCSIMAW

Envy
G...?
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
Infinite
Blind
Grunt
Birthday
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
M.....?
Assassins
W.....?

Posted by: Enigmatist on November 16, 2004 6:21 AM

He has the right Idea.^^

The others are for the other levels that the skulls are found on. Grunt Birthday Patry is only on one so that frees up another level...

Posted by: Pkabooicu on November 16, 2004 6:08 PM

interesting.

Posted by: trinidad2k on November 16, 2004 7:25 PM

ILWNL

Maybe its stands for "I Love Windows Not Linux" :b

Posted by: GSmiles on November 16, 2004 8:08 PM

JNAMSFTFY

It could be "Just Not As Much Special Forces To Fight You" ;)

Posted by: GSmiles on November 16, 2004 8:12 PM

JNAMSFTFY

or it could be "Just Not As Much Smart Fighters To Fight You" ;)

Posted by: GSmiles on November 16, 2004 8:23 PM

JNAMSFTFY

"Just Not As Much Spartan Forces To Fight You"?

Posted by: WhoAmI on November 16, 2004 10:04 PM

JNAMSFTFY

"Just Name A Man Still Fit To Fight You"

Posted by: PaddX on November 16, 2004 11:14 PM

From the marathon story pages...

Forrest Cameranesi writes concerning the acronym TATRTSTS found on the Myth II: Soulblighter box:

Tsao from The Asylum suggests that Myth II's TATRTSTS may mean "Total Annihilation: The Real-Time Strategy That Sucks", as that fits in with Bungie's insult to Warcraft and Command & Conquer in TFL's WACCSMD.

Posted by: duo on November 17, 2004 12:03 AM

The "Mystic" skull has been found since my last post. That fills in the "M", leaving G and W.
So far so good.

Enigmatist

Posted by: Enigmatist on November 17, 2004 12:21 AM

I think I must have an extra special special edition copy. Mine has no such JNAMSFTFY acronym anywhere on the box at all!

Posted by: wig on November 17, 2004 12:45 AM

Really? It's not on the box itself, but on the plastic sleeve that the box comes in, and it's on the back down near the bottom.

Is there anything *else* on there? Another one, perhaps?

Posted by: mnemesis on November 17, 2004 12:48 AM

Grunt Birthday is one skull... one of the B's is the Black Eye skull I think... it's been confirmed that the Black Eye Skull exists

Posted by: Pelican on November 17, 2004 12:59 AM

el zilcho nemesis, no acronyms or anything out of the ordinary. It is the pal version though, maybe that makes a difference?

Posted by: wig on November 17, 2004 1:52 AM

The Halo 2 Box maybe MSFT has something to do with Microsoft (It is their ticker symbol isnt it?) Just a guess...

Posted by: Ace on November 17, 2004 2:59 AM

I haven't played Halo 2 yet, but with Envy right there, just throwing out that the G might be 'Greed' and maybe the W 'War'

Posted by: GamelordZX on November 17, 2004 10:07 AM

The Skulls page at High Impact Halo really pins down the fact that the Soundtrack acronym refers to these; as of right now, 12 are listed, and all match. (The missing three are G, B, W.)

Skulls page URL, because MT isn't html-friendly:

http://www.highimpacthalo.org/skulls.htm

Posted by: Claude Errera on November 17, 2004 3:38 PM

If Black Eye is confirmed, then there's only G and W left to find.

Posted by: mnemesis on November 17, 2004 3:53 PM

For good reason it ain't html friendly! I have to deal with enough comment spam, but comment spam filled with links to porn and midget goat hermaphrodite blogs I don't need, let me tell you! :)

Posted by: Miguel on November 17, 2004 4:13 PM

Man, you're no fun at all!

Posted by: mnemesis on November 17, 2004 4:14 PM

So, it looks like a "Ghost" skull has been found by Nuva Kaita over at HIH (http://highimpacthalo.org/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1255&start=135). If this is true, and the Black Eye skull represents one of the two B's, then the only one left (at least as far as this acronym goes) is the "W" skull. Assuming all THAT is true, the acronym would be one of these:

Envy, Grunt, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Blind, Ghost, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Grunt, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Black, Ghost, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Grunt, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Blind, Ghost, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Infinite, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Grunt, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Black, Ghost, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Infinite, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Grunt, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Blind, Ghost, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Assassins, W...
Envy, Grunt, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Black, Ghost, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Assassins, W...
Envy, Grunt, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Blind, Ghost, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Infinite, Mystic, Assassins, W...
Envy, Grunt, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Black, Ghost, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Infinite, Mystic, Assassins, W...
Envy, Ghost, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Blind, Grunt, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Ghost, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Black, Grunt, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Ghost, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Blind, Grunt, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Infinite, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Ghost, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Black, Grunt, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Infinite, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Ghost, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Blind, Grunt, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Assassins, W...
Envy, Ghost, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Black, Grunt, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Assassins, W...
Envy, Ghost, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Blind, Grunt, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Infinite, Mystic, Assassins, W...
Envy, Ghost, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Black, Grunt, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Infinite, Mystic, Assassins, W...

It's all so simple! ;-)

Posted by: mnemesis on November 17, 2004 5:08 PM

What do u do with the letters from the skull do u put it in create a new player

Posted by: halo101 on November 17, 2004 7:52 PM

Well I don't know if this would be useful in finding out the order of the levels you'd need to travel to to solve this puzzle, but I took mnemesis's really crazy list and replaced the words with levels.

Delta Halo, The Arbiter, Regret, Cairo Station, The Oracle, I..., Outskirts, Ghost, The Great Journey, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, High Charity, Sacred Icon, Gravemind, W...
Delta Halo, The Arbiter, Regret, Cairo Station, The Oracle, I..., The Great Journey, Ghost, Outskirts, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, High Charity, Sacred Icon, Gravemind, W...
Delta Halo, The Arbiter, Regret, Cairo Station, The Oracle, High Charity, Outskirts, Ghost, The Great Journey, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, I..., Sacred Icon, Gravemind, W...
Delta Halo, The Arbiter, Regret, Cairo Station, The Oracle, High Charity, The Great Journey, Ghost, Outskirts, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, I..., Sacred Icon, Gravemind, W...
Delta Halo, The Arbiter, Gravemind, Cairo Station, The Oracle, I..., Outskirts, Ghost, The Great Journey, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, High Charity, Sacred Icon, Regret, W...
Delta Halo, The Arbiter, Gravemind, Cairo Station, The Oracle, I..., The Great Journey, Ghost, Outskirts, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, High Charity, Sacred Icon, Regret, W...
Delta Halo, The Arbiter, Gravemind, Cairo Station, The Oracle, High Charity, Outskirts, Ghost, The Great Journey, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, I..., Sacred Icon, Regret, W...
Delta Halo, The Arbiter, Gravemind, Cairo Station, The Oracle, High Charity, The Great Journey, Ghost, Outskirts, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, I..., Sacred Icon, Regret, W...
Delta Halo, Ghost, Regret, Cairo Station, The Oracle, I..., Outskirts, The Arbiter, The Great Journey, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, High Charity, Sacred Icon, Gravemind, W...
Delta Halo, Ghost, Regret, Cairo Station, The Oracle, I..., The Great Journey, The Arbiter, Outskirts, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, High Charity, Sacred Icon, Gravemind, W...
Delta Halo, Ghost, Regret, Cairo Station, The Oracle, High Charity, Outskirts, The Arbiter, The Great Journey, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, I..., Sacred Icon, Gravemind, W...
Delta Halo, Ghost, Regret, Cairo Station, The Oracle, High Charity, The Great Journey, The Arbiter, Outskirts, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, I..., Sacred Icon, Gravemind, W...
Delta Halo, Ghost, Gravemind, Cairo Station, The Oracle, I..., Outskirts, The Arbiter, The Great Journey, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, High Charity, Sacred Icon, Regret, W...
Delta Halo, Ghost, Gravemind, Cairo Station, The Oracle, I..., The Great Journey, The Arbiter, Outskirts, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, High Charity, Sacred Icon, Regret, W...
Delta Halo, Ghost, Gravemind, Cairo Station, The Oracle, High Charity, Outskirts, The Arbiter, The Great Journey, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, I..., Sacred Icon, Regret, W...
Delta Halo, Ghost, Gravemind, Cairo Station, The Oracle, High Charity, The Great Journey, The Arbiter, Outskirts, Metropolis, Quarantine Zone, I..., Sacred Icon, Regret, W...

Posted by: NuvaKaita on November 17, 2004 11:38 PM

With the latest skull finds, here is my update for my prediction about the 15-letter acronym. Its all coming together!!

EGATFIBGBCSIMAW

Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
Infinite
Blind
Grunt
Birthday (or Black eye)
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mystic
Assassins
W.....?

One more! Lemme guess....it starts with "W".

-Enigmatist

Posted by: Enigmatist on November 18, 2004 1:21 AM

WUBNMH - What's Up, Bitch? Not Much, Holmes

should read Homes.. ala homeboy.. Boyz n the Hood and such..
not Sherlock Holmes..

Posted by: n_nlemon on November 18, 2004 1:05 PM

W... It must be short for "What The Fudge"!

..does this skull mean - it doesn't read anything when I pick it up?

Posted by: Twelve Large on November 18, 2004 4:59 PM

I think the last skull would have to be war, but, there are a lot of words that start with W...

Also, concerning M.C. and the guy from Marathon? What the hell... There has GOT to be a connection here. I've never played Marathon but I heard some of the maps are the same, not to mention that the logo can be used. In the conversations throughout the universe booklet, there is a letter from Cassandra to John/117, or, MC. Anybody know of a Cassandra or a John from Marathon? Or do you mean the guy from Marathon was a SPARTAN.

Although I'm getting off track, the skulls might lead back to the marathon series, somehow, maybe it'll help somebody think of the W, word.

Not to spam... feel free to join my sites forums (www.clan.mrminotaur.u4w.com, it's a Halo clan) and specuate there, as well as here.

Posted by: z!nk on November 18, 2004 11:17 PM

I figured out the acronym for the skull list form the soundtrack:
Here it is:
Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assasins
Thunderstorm
Famine
**I would have been your daddy** (new)
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
**Ice Cream** (new)
Mythic
Angry
**Whuppopotamus** (new)

This is the real deal!

Posted by: Damian C on November 19, 2004 1:55 AM

Shouldn't it be 'What up' instead of 'What's up' ?

Posted by: thehomeland on November 19, 2004 2:11 AM

The marathon guy wasn't a spartan and the only things he came into contact with were 3 computer AI's (named Durandal, Tycho and ermm i forget :/) and a whole bunch of dudes all named "Bob".
It was speculated that he was an android, I still kind of think MC is an android aswell.
They are kinda similar, but I can't explain how. Maybe its just nostalgia.

Posted by: osxjunkie on November 19, 2004 3:34 AM

Damian C, you're a little late.

Check out more at www.highimpacthalo.org

Another skull was found in the Armory level.
No word attached to it, but we're watching.

-Enigmatist

Posted by: Enigmatist on November 19, 2004 3:57 AM

What exactly are the skulls for?

Posted by: z!nk on November 19, 2004 2:27 PM

UPDATE:
The ice-cream entry of my list should be IRON.
Also, whuppopotamus may be coWbell

Posted by: Damian C on November 19, 2004 8:15 PM

Envy, Ghost, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Blind, Grunt, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Assassins, W...
Envy, Ghost, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Infinite, Black, Grunt, Blind, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Assassins, W...

I tried picking up the skulls in this order, but I ran into a roadblock - I couldn't find the supposed "Infinite" skull. So I skipped it and picked up the rest of them in no particular order. Well, I guess you could call it "pussy order", since I left skulls like "Black Eye", "Assassins" and "Blind" for last.

Oh, yeah.. This shit IS HARD. The battle that takes place during the Chief's objective to free the two groups of Marines held up inside High Charity was fugging insane during my hunt. I don't remember it being that hard my first time through the campaign on the Legendary setting. I'm thinking it may have had something to do with Ghost, but mabey not. Also, going for the "Catch" skull sucked big ones. There's nothing like making your way to the end of the bridge, hitting a checkpoint, and finding out these three Banshees are FUCKING INVINCIBLE. What the fudge is that? So we have to track back to the beginning of the level, to grab the raggity ass Warthog, which will be blown sky high (thanks sputnik) 19 out of 20 times - When it comes to speeding through this deathtrap at the end of the bridge. Not to mention it takes around seven minutes to travel from one end of the bridge to the other in that piece of a tank you all call a Scorpion. And I don't even wanna talk about going back to try and find "Inifinite" after my hunt, find, and activation of the fourteen known skulls in one sitting. :\


What a waste of time.

..I should do it again someday.

Posted by: Twelve Large on November 19, 2004 8:39 PM

I like halo

Posted by: Josh on November 20, 2004 12:36 AM

Okay, here's what we have so far.

Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
I.....? (could be "invisible")
Blind
Grunt B-day party
Black eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Assassins
W.....?

-Enigmatist

more soon!

hih kickin ass

Posted by: Enigmatist on November 20, 2004 2:29 AM

FTFY is possibly "For Three/Ten F...ing Years". Three, because that's how long Halo 2 took to make, and Ten, because it's Marathon's Tenth Anniversary in December.

So, maybe, "Jason, Not Another Marathon Story For Ten F...ing Years". Somebody could be getting a bit sick of this motif.

- Reiginko

Posted by: Reiginko on November 20, 2004 8:33 AM

People were talking about a skull that doesn't have a name. Two speculations on this.

1. You picked it up and forgot/died and picked it up again thus it will have no name.

2. It is the W skull and it will have a name if you pick up the rest of the skulls in the right order and you will solve the puzzle.

Posted by: Shortest Hill on November 20, 2004 12:22 PM

hey i'm new to hih but i agree with you guys and i am glad i checked that site cuz when i first found envy and famine skulls i thought they were just easter eggs and had no idea you could even pick them up until i read your guys' thingamabobs. ever since i have been hunting them down but i think in order to activate whatever the secret is, i believe we have to get them in the order of the acronym cuz w is the last one and has no name but maybe if we get them all in order before that one, maybe it will? please resond somebdy cuz i think we should seriously try it out. -peace

Posted by: kevin on November 20, 2004 6:24 PM

MRTEFCFY

its says the only clue we have about this one is that Halo 2 and Myth CTF have some sort of connection that no one expected.

The only thing I can think of is that elites go "wort wort wort" in both halos, and that is "trow trow trow" backwards....

could that be the key?

-Mr Tree

Posted by: MrTree on November 21, 2004 2:06 AM

There is one problem with the solution I gave to figuring out the puzzle to the skulls. First of all, if my calulations are correct (and they could be off), there are 16 different combinations we could try because of the four duplicate letters in EGATFIBGBCSIMAW. The A's, G's, B's, and I's. If we get a large group of people to cooperate with each other then we could have at least one person trying each combination. What do you guys think?

Posted by: Shortest Hill on November 21, 2004 3:05 AM

Sorry, I don't mean to post so much but I did find out one more thing about the skulls. When you pik one up, if you turn off your Xbox, then you will lose that skull so any attempts to try and get this puzzle figured out will have to be in one sitting, or at least not turning off your Xbox.

Posted by: Shortest Hill on November 21, 2004 3:18 AM

Because the W is the last you maybe have to pick up the rest of the skulls in order first an then get the "WIN" skull or something..

Posted by: Jonas on November 21, 2004 8:00 PM

haha u guys are crazy dedicated. but meh ill try one of the combinations. but can u do it on co-op? cuz im sure i could get maybe 2 done then with my friend.

Posted by: kevin on November 21, 2004 10:44 PM

there is a no name skull which would have to be the w in the skull list

Posted by: don on November 22, 2004 1:05 AM

On the credits, on any difficulty, look at Frank's comment. its something like CCRDFUGB or somehing, but i just made those letters up - cud someone post the words, and if so, where to find the acronym? i cud b onto sumthing.

Posted by: w_legendary_w on November 22, 2004 1:32 PM

I know you can pick the skulls up in co-op but I don't know if you can collect all of them like we need to do in order to solve the puzzle.

And remember, you have to get all the skulls without turning off your Xbox.

Posted by: Shortest Hill on November 22, 2004 3:55 PM

JNAMSFTFY could be "Jason Needs Another Marathon Story For This Fucking Year" Or something along those lines.

Posted by: Jeremy on November 22, 2004 5:20 PM

haha u doubt me and my friends abilities. I have the auto turn off setting off and my xbox is in my basement where its nice and cool. So this, hypothetically, should let me keep it on indefinatly... just gemme an order and ill give it my best.

Posted by: Kevin on November 22, 2004 7:38 PM

JNAMSFTFY could be "Jason Needs Another Mega Story For This Fucking Year"

Or It could be "Just Not Another Marathon Story For Ten Fucking Years" For might be "from" like, from ten years of hard work. Which may mean, the marathon story was not so good...

Just random guesses.

Posted by: z!nk on November 22, 2004 9:43 PM

Okay, so the current skulls are:

Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
I.....? (could be "invisible")
Blind
Grunt B-day party
Black eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Assassins
W.....?

(Quoting Enigmatist here: http://highimpacthalo.org/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1359&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15)

I'll stake a claim on 'W' standing for Wrath. No idea what level it will be on - but it would make some sense to have it on 'The Great Journey'.

And which of the sixteen combinations is the one that works? Maybe it doesn't matter - or maybe there's a pattern to it.

Posted by: Flashman on November 22, 2004 10:20 PM

I Think i saw somewhere that there was an infinite skull, and that could what the other I means, but i'll get back on that

Posted by: Ribok126 on November 23, 2004 7:44 AM

EGATFIBGBCSIMAW

I don't think it means anything. I think it's just a clue, as Max Hoberman says. So, we know that there are 15 skulls in the game, and we're missing one, except if the "No name" skull is the last one to collect and has only a "name" if it's the last one to be collected (Maybe WIN). Maybe you will solve the puzzle if you collect them in the order of the "acronym", maybe not (referring to a post in Bungie.net forums, someone said that different numbers were put next to the skulls, so maybe do we have to collect them according to the "numbers". Example : notice the "8" into the "scope" near the blind skull - So it's maybe the 8th, or the 12th if you add the 4 grenades :s ...).

(Pss, we'll solve the puzzle and unlock something like an audio file "You worked hard to unlock this. Good job! See ya." and nothing else, like in Outcast :p ... )

Posted by: Sarthor on November 23, 2004 12:49 PM

TBWSAF

Guys, this stands for Too Bad We Stopped After Four. This is in reference to the four related games dealing with Marathon:

Pathways into Darkness
Marathon
Marathon 2: Durandal
Marathon: Infinity

You can check the Marathon Story page too.

Posted by: Ender on November 23, 2004 4:36 PM

Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
Infinate
Blind
Grunt B-day party
Black eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Assassins

Maybe collect in this (or the other listed) order(s) beat all the levels they are on then get the no-name skull at the armory. Maybe it will be givin a name (Win?) *realy hopes it unlockes another single player level after the great journey*

Posted by: Snake eye on November 23, 2004 5:02 PM

If someone could find the other "I" skull (infinite?) then we could begin trying the different combinations. There was an unconfirmed report of it being in The Quarintined(spelling?) Zone but the description was pretty vague. Something about using a tnk to get to a high ledge and running across the map. Dunno if this will help, but it would be pointless to try and find all the skulls before we know where this one is at. As soon as it is confirmed we will try the combinations.

Posted by: Shortest Hill on November 23, 2004 11:42 PM

"However according to Max \"Yeroen\" Hoberman SPMLOAS and MRTEFCFY are both slanderous, and require intimate knowledge of Bungie history and especially of the Bungie timeline." - Marathon's Story

Intriguing and tantalizing. Clearly the search for the tru7h has not ended, even if the Marathon, Myth, and Oni universes have closed.

Posted by: Andrew Nagy on November 25, 2004 12:26 AM

Revision: Well, maybe not "the" tru7h. I should have just said "tru7h".

Posted by: Andrew Nagy on November 25, 2004 12:28 AM

Just not a Myth sci-fi trilogy for you.

Or

Just not another Myth sci-fi trilogy for you.

Posted by: Its Me on November 25, 2004 1:05 AM

WACCSMD Myth Warcraft And Command & Conquer, Suck My Dick

wtf is myth? c&c kicks its ass you cant use extremely powerful weapons in pissth, i mean shitybungiehomogame, i mean myth

Posted by: bob on November 25, 2004 3:22 AM

Just to let everyone know, there is no Infinite skull. The person who made it up confessed and a real skull that starts with "I" has been confirmed. It's on outskirts in a little room with sniper ammo and a number 17 on the wall. The trigger(s) to make it appear seem to be random so far. Once you pick up the skull you are transported and have to fight many elites. If you win the fight, you see the name of the skull: I Would Have Been your Daddy.

Posted by: ben on November 25, 2004 5:03 AM

Do you guys realise that when this is all figured out and the secret of the skulls is truly unlocked then MC's final battle will be the reward.....This wouls also support that fact that there is not going to be a Halo 3 (apparently)

Posted by: dagnir on November 25, 2004 1:20 PM

for goodness' sakes! The "I" skull is "IRON".

http://highimpacthalo.org/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1470

that's a list of all the ones we have so far.

Posted by: Audio on November 25, 2004 1:56 PM

NEWS FLASH AUDIO! There are two I's in the acronym. For goodness' sakes indeed.

Posted by: ben on November 25, 2004 2:05 PM

I posted this list on the 19th of Nov (look up the page) and it contained the "I would of been your daddy" entry. I believe the only thing that was wrong is that ice cream should be "Iron" and that the "Whuppopotamus" is the armoury skull.

Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assasins
Thunderstorm
Famine
**I would have been your daddy** (new)
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
**Iron** (edit)
Mythic
Angry
**Whuppopotamus** (new)

Posted by: Damian C on November 25, 2004 8:36 PM

Don't be stupid. I Wouldve Been Your Daddy was a chapter name in the first Halo.

Posted by: Oomba on November 25, 2004 11:59 PM

Could WUBNMH be, " What's up bitch, nothing much here?" Hurk.

Posted by: PreciousRoy on November 26, 2004 12:06 AM

It's been confirmed. I would have been your daddy is for real. But I'm not sure about Whuppopotamus.

Posted by: Precious Again on November 26, 2004 12:16 AM

The skulls that have been confirmed so far are:

Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
Iron
Black Eye
Grunt Birthday Party
Blind
Catch
Sputnik
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Mythic
Assasin
W(?)

As for the W, there is a skull called "Will" that has been unconfirmed. It is apparently on the second arbiter level in a pipe somewhere.

Nobody is quite sure what the no-name Armoury skull does yet. disscusions are continuing.

Go to the bungie.net forums under the catagory "New Mombasa" for the thread "EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT THE SKULLS". It has all this and more.

Posted by: laser on November 26, 2004 1:44 AM

hello. this "I would have been your daddy" skull... why is it so much more complex to 'activate' than the other skulls? and it doesn't say anything when you first get the skull, eh? so you need to kill the Elites and such to make it do the words.... so, is it safe to assume that the very first skull in the Armoury also needs to be activated somehow like this one? maybe I'm missing something, but eh... I wish Bungie would at least confirm that all our trouble will provide something nice if we keep searching as hard as we are. I feel sorry for anyone who's actually trying to collect all 15 skulls on Legendary at once, if it doesn't do anything in the end. heh. I wish there was a way to at least save your progress or eh....

Posted by: chickenmouth on November 26, 2004 2:35 AM

mmm.. you might disregard my last comment. somehow it didn't register in my head that it teleported you somewhere when you pick up the Daddy skull, somewhat forcing you to 'activate' it... but eh... still, the words don't pop up immediately so there may be some connection. blah.

Posted by: chickenmouth on November 26, 2004 2:39 AM

Here's my plan. I've went ahead and taken the time to copy my original profile to my memory card. I then rename my oglp (original gangster legendary profile) -> settings -> profile -> edit. I then copy the oglp from my memory card to my hdd. I rename it "ENVY". I do this sixteen times over until I've made it all the way to "morecowbellbitch". So now I have all 16 profiles named after skulls and retarded ship... With each one saved at the checkpoint before skull pickup/activation.

p.s. I'll never get past those elites, though. So let's help each other work on a strategy that pwns the "I would of been your daddy" activation. One that works when you don't happen to have unlimited cloaking abilities. :(

Posted by: Twelve Large on November 26, 2004 7:06 AM

JNAMSFTFY = Just Not American Mother Sucking Fucking Tit Fucker Yeah

Posted by: Jake on November 26, 2004 10:50 AM

"However please note that sending in a string of profane words for a box acronym simply because they fit the sequence of letters doesn't cut it I'm afraid. While the TBWSAF acronym was a series of profane words there was actually a reason behind it. As Matt Soell pointed out it was a tongue-in-cheek response to a rather profane letter sent in to the Bungie Webmaster." ~Hamish

Posted by: Andrew Nagy on November 26, 2004 2:32 PM

You guys that are busy trying to fit curse words in the acronym... you're not getting it. Bungie doesn't liberally sprinkle curse words around. As Nagy points out, it is done selectively if at all.

Posted by: Miguel on November 26, 2004 8:29 PM

The W is probably for "Wrong", as in "Thats just... Wrong" which was discovered in the mainmenu.map file of Halo 2.
This information was found in the "EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT THE SKULLS" Forum
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=1156052&postRepeater1-p=35

Posted by: Froggy on November 26, 2004 11:24 PM

So far out of all the confirmed skulls there is Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
I...?
BLind
Grunt Birthday party
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Assassins
W...?

The Infinate skull was found by sum1 hoo said he found it nd then lost it he gave the spot where he found it but it hasn't been confirmed by ne1 else

Posted by: Victor on November 28, 2004 9:35 AM

Infinite is fake. The person who made it up confessed.

Posted by: ben on November 28, 2004 2:37 PM

It's "Wad up bitch? Not much Holmes"

Posted by: Matty on November 28, 2004 4:47 PM

Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
BLind
Grunt Birthday party
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Assassins
W...? I think this might be "Wordless"

All of these are confirmed and proven except the last one. I think that when you pick up all the skulls in that order then pick up the armoury skull (Wordless) then Cowbell is what pops up. If you collect the skulls in the wrong order it says "That's just....Wrong" I think the W stands for Wordless.

Posted by: Draco on November 28, 2004 10:33 PM

I picked up the skulls in this order..

Envy, Grunt, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, I Would Of Been Your Daddy, Blind, Ghost, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Anger, W...

..And nothing, nadda, zilch. I also completed the game with all of them active, and received the same results... Nothing. Totally AWESOME!

Could it be that there is no meaning behind collecting every skull? :O! Maybe these skulls just have effects that were in the game, but once removed because bungie felt for some reason it was best. So they just added them back in as eggs.. Some of them as smelly rotten ones.

Also, maybe there are hints thrown about near these skulls that help in solving the actual anogram, rather than some larger puzzle we thought up on our own?

Posted by: Twelve Large on November 29, 2004 8:02 AM

Envy, Grunt, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, I Would Of Been Your Daddy, Blind, Ghost, Black, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Ghost, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron, Blind, Grunt, Black, Catch, Sputnik, I Would Have Been Your Daddy, Mystic, Anger, W...
Envy, Grunt, Anger, Thunderstorm, Famine, Iron Blind, Ghost, Black, Catch, Sputnik, I Would Have Been Your Daddy, Mystic, Assassins, W...
etc.
That order you picked them up in is only one of a few orders you can pick them up in. Before you denounce a theory, TEST IT OUT FIRST.

Posted by: Draco on November 29, 2004 9:11 PM

Maybe the ''W'' stands for an Emotion, like ''Worry'' something like that, some skull names are emotions like ''A'' which means ''Anger'', or maybe the ''W'' stands for World, you know, like World Domination, Bungie is always commenting that they want to achieve World Domination and all that stuff i don't really know,i am just throwing in my 2 cents, i could be wrong, let's all hope that these freaking enigmas bungie leaves behind get solved one day.

Posted by: Eternal Champion on November 29, 2004 9:34 PM

Jason Needs Another Million, So Finish This Fiscal Year!

Posted by: Kanen Faud'r on December 1, 2004 1:48 AM

skull 10011011011 blind not hard find 10101011110011 skull multiplayer flag capcture skull on top of poll with flag break of that skull=staff that honor eliets carry

Posted by: mj13 mc117 on December 1, 2004 3:27 PM

This Halo 2 legendary skull acronym is all very cool and interesting. I hope to find out what it all means because I am in fucking suspense! It would be cool if there wasn't gonna be a Halo 3 because the Halo creators secretly hid the rest of the game inside of the second Halo, but I wouldn't wanna do the legendary skull search thing in order like everyone is saying because that sounds repetitive and as hard as hell. Anyways, theres my shity little comment. : - )

Posted by: Mike Ockslong on December 3, 2004 7:01 PM

101010101 I AM VIRUS 01101101011101011****###!)!)!!!1011011111110101011011110010101010100101010100010100010000111101011100110101

Posted by: 01101********!)))!!!010111 on December 3, 2004 9:45 PM

HAVE ALL SKULL IN A RING WITH MY NEW MOD I CAN CARRY EVERY SINGE ONE IN THE SHAPE OF A RING LIKE HALO. ITS MELEE I HAVE CONVERTED INTO A HALO ACTIVATED BEAM WEAPON ALLOWING YOU TO EBLIVERATE ALL ENEMIES IN A 600X800 AREUM. IT TURNS THE ENEMIES INTO A CLOUD OF DUST

Posted by: MODDER on December 3, 2004 9:49 PM

I'm not sure, but I think that ILWNL is:
I Like/Love Winning, Not Losing
...Just a random idea

Posted by: Snap! on December 3, 2004 10:26 PM

maybe try this get the word less skull and try to hit the sarge 100 or so odd times before he gets out of the sub (could do something like the could have been your daddy trick like a challange or something)plus in the beggining the sarge acts as if your a child and the level dosnt end till he gets out of the sub.

Posted by: jksharp on December 3, 2004 10:43 PM

hey i also found out that the wordless skull on the armory makes the gernades you through have no flash at all and the wraiths morter only is a striped white line theres no explotin graghics!

Posted by: jksharp on December 3, 2004 10:49 PM

So the updated list stands at:

EGATFIBGBCSIMAW

Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
IWHBYD
Blind
Grunt B-day Party
Black eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mystic
Assassins
W....?

Good progress in only 3 weeks!

Very interesting that the only skull that seems to remain is also the last letter. That's all I'm sayin. Bungie has stated (even as Halo 2 was released) that there are still things in Halo 1 left to be uncovered. Jeez!!!

-Enigmatist

Posted by: Enigmatist on December 4, 2004 2:43 AM

Maybe the 'W' stands for 'Where?', as in Where are these hidden skulls?
Or not.. >.>

Posted by: Angelic Blaze on December 4, 2004 3:15 AM

Ice Cream, Whuppopotamus (Hippo)?

That's just... Wrong. Or maybe not, but where could the missing skulls be. They better not all be Megg's (like IWHBYD Skull).

Posted by: PeaceKeeper on December 4, 2004 10:36 AM

My Guess is that the acronym is only based off of halo2 eggs making the acronym:
Envy Grunt Assassins Thunderstorm Famine I Blind Ghost Black Catch Sputnik Ice Mythic Angry Whuppopotamus

Where as the skull list is not entirely the acronym (done on purpose I assume):
Envy, Grunt Birthday Party, Assassins, Thunderstorm, Famine, I Would Have Been Your Daddy, Blind, Ghost, Black Eye, Catch, Sputnik, Iron, Mythic, Angry, Cow Bell, That's Just... Wrong


Also

[On the credits, on any difficulty, look at Frank's comment. its something like CCRDFUGB or somehing, but i just made those letters up - cud someone post the words, and if so, where to find the acronym? i cud b onto sumthing.

Posted by: w_legendary_w on November 22, 2004 01:32 PM]

That comment would be exactly the following:
CluGreeniesChrlasBobMonksShumps!

Posted by: PeaceKeeper on December 5, 2004 8:49 AM

JNAMSFTFY could the 'J' be Johnson? perhaps the acronym explains his escape from halo?

Posted by: Mike on December 5, 2004 9:47 AM

maybe its like "Johnson never actually made shit for the first year" IDK I'm just trying to throw things outt there.

Posted by: Joe on December 5, 2004 8:00 PM

Sorry, Mike, but the 3rd Halo book, First Strike, by Eric Nylund revealed the reasons behind Sergeant Johnson's escape from Halo.

*Spoiler*
His nervous system was scrambled by a disease he recieved from using too many plasma grenades, but he refused treatment. Because his nervous system was scrambled so badly, the Flood couldn't force a match to take over his body with, so they left him and moved onto different prey. He was picked up by the last remaining Pelican dropship and the four surviving crew linked up with the Master Chief after Halo was destroyed.

The rest of the story details their capture of a Covenant Flagship, the rescue of several other SPARTAN II's and Dr. Halsey from Reach, a very strange gravity-reversing artifact, and finally a lesson learned by the Master Chief: That everybody may have a different role in the future, and therefore sacrificing one for the good of many might not work out so well.

This is very well demonstrated by the circumstances that bring the Sergeant Johnson together with the Master Chief and the Arbiter, and the crucial role he plays.
*end spoiler*

Posted by: Piroko on December 6, 2004 5:41 AM

i have read this all, and thought about it.. and i can't come up with anything better than the previously posted:
Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
IWHBYD
Blind
Grunt B-day Party
Black eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mystic
Assassins
Wordless(or the Whuppopotamus one)

i really do wanna help.. but i dont know the locations of all the skulls. ALso, i was wondering if i could have a more specific location to the skull the teleports you, and you fight the elites, i ma very interested in fighting them.

We must figure this out it would be awsome, and the payoff huge

halo on- jeff

Posted by: Jeff on December 7, 2004 7:56 PM

EGATFIBGBCSIMAW

1)Envy-Delta Halo
2)Ghost-uprising
3)assassins-regret
4)Thunderstorm- Cairo Station
5)Famine-Oracle
6)iwhbud-outskirts
7)blind-outskirts
8)gruntbirthdayparty-Arbiter
9)blackeye- The Great Journey
10)catch-metropolis
11)sputnik-quarantine zone
12)iron (icecream)-high charity
13)mythic-sacred icon
14)angry- gravemind
15)whuppopotamus.- Armory

95% sure this is correct order and unlocks New single player options

Posted by: ima1 on December 8, 2004 6:55 PM

If there were single player content to be unlocked, those with modded xboxes would have found evidence of it by now.

Posted by: Menemeth on December 8, 2004 10:02 PM

Did that order work that you were 95% sure of.

Posted by: Slippery on December 9, 2004 2:28 AM

ok,Im lost,whats up with these skulls,iv fond 1 on outskirts,but havnt looked in any other levels,but anyway,is it all some kind of code that will like tell us a message if we get all skulls in order,or are we like getting the first letter form each word it says when we get a skull to see what it says or what.If some1 out there would be kind and email me and giv me info,my email is BaD_DoG123jc@HotMail.com

Posted by: Spartan117 on December 9, 2004 8:43 PM

We've gotten them in order and out of order beat the game both ways and beat it again without restarting, nothing. We think we are still missing one.

Also there is a Megg on Cario that extremely little is known about, named after Ice Cream; so I wouldn't be surprised if there was also a Megg named Whuppopotamus.

Posted by: PeaceKeeper on December 9, 2004 9:19 PM

Has anyone tried getting the skulls in order AND activating the blue screen of death terminal on Delta Halo?

Posted by: Menemeth on December 9, 2004 11:17 PM

for Halo PC, ILWNL is I Love Winning Not Losing
just a thought

Posted by: 21 suicide on December 11, 2004 11:07 AM

if this hasn't already been said,(i didn't read the WHOLE thing....) could it be, "What's Up Bitch? Not Much Homey." i dunno, but when i think of people saying bitch as a greeting, i also think of people saying homey as a greeting. maybe i'm just a rascist bastard. i dunno.

Posted by: Ricahrd on December 11, 2004 1:19 PM

For JNAMSFTFY the J could stand for Jiralhanae, the covenant name for Brutes. Also the S and Y could possibly stand for Sangheili (Elites) and Yanme'e (Drones). Just puttin an idea out there I don't even have a guess.

Posted by: Shaolin on December 11, 2004 1:54 PM

ILWNL:

Imagine Life Without No Llamas
Imagine Life Without No Losers
Imagine Life Without No Lamers
I Love Winning, Not Losing

Posted by: rolandog on December 11, 2004 2:33 PM

Oh, sorry, "I Love Winning, Not Losing" was already mentioned by 21 suicide.

Posted by: rolandog on December 11, 2004 2:36 PM

my guess is we dont know of a skull and u need to get the nameless one last

Posted by: Kyrasis on December 11, 2004 3:37 PM

2 cents on the Halo 2 GOTY soundtrack ( ABTFIPASO5 ):
Anybody But The Fattest Is Probably A SO5
Anybody But The Fastest Is Probably A Slow O (probably a noun) 5

Well, 2 ideas, two cents.

Posted by: Mintz08 on December 11, 2004 4:45 PM

Halo 2 soundtrack, but only the first few letter
E Gads a terrific find I believe

Posted by: Rocky-3 on December 11, 2004 6:05 PM

There just aren't skulls in halo 2 but in halo 1 too. for ex: theres a Forerunner Symbol on dead Covenant in the back of golden elites. its also odd that the skulls are the same as the odd balls

Posted by: EL ZORRO on December 12, 2004 2:38 AM

Theres a HUGE easter egg: A giant soccer ball!

Posted by: EL ZORRO on December 12, 2004 2:41 AM

After the station goes into free-fall in the arbiter, you might start to float and then drift back to the ground. However, if you get high enough, you will just go flying into the air.

Posted by: EL ZORRO on December 12, 2004 2:46 AM

All right, so I'm new the the Bungie-verse, but from what I've read here and on the Marathon Story page, Bugie seems to like number games [or at least the fans have decided that they do]. So, has any one tried doing anything with the numbers that are found by the skulls? Like with this old chart:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
A B C D E F G H I
J K L M N O P Q R
S T U V W X Y Z

Just an idea I thought I'd throw out there

Posted by: SDroid on December 13, 2004 6:43 PM

Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
BLind
Grunt Birthday party
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Assassins
W...? I think this might be "Wordless"

All of these are confirmed and proven except the last one. I think that when you pick up all the skulls in that order then pick up the armoury skull (Wordless) then Cowbell is what pops up. If you collect the skulls in the wrong order it says "That's just....Wrong" I think the W stands for Wordless.
By Draco

I think u pretty much got it, but im thinking the w is the name of the final skull, and when u get it wrong, all the sculls in the wrong order, it says thats just...wrong. or it says it when you get it right, because were al justa bunch of Halo geeks and fags. Me included.lol

Posted by: Halo Hero on December 13, 2004 11:23 PM

Ummmm... ok some of the names of the skulls sound to me like prophet names (anger, famine, envy) and some sound like names of missions (sputnic{wtf??!?}, ghost, assasins, thunderstorm, mythic) also, sometimes in the army the commanders used to use the word black eye for a failure

Posted by: Cameron on December 14, 2004 1:03 AM

The surprise connection was related to the soundtracks and themes:

http://halo.bungie.org/oldnews.html?item=11356

Posted by: Brian Levy on December 14, 2004 3:23 PM

Has anyone thought that the last skull may not actually exist and that it is there just to keep people playing, after all Bungie is a company, and companies wnat people to keep playing their games.

If not, heres my theory :
W does exist BUT it has two meanings,
One of which may be WIN, and the other thats just... Wrong

Posted by: Scott Tasker on December 15, 2004 1:17 PM

Ring the cowbell win a prize

Posted by: Anomonomus on December 15, 2004 5:14 PM

WUBNMH

What up Bob? Not much holmes.

Posted by: ninja of fire on December 15, 2004 7:50 PM

Han anyone found out yet?

Posted by: Ben on December 19, 2004 4:36 AM

Hey to everybody, my dad just got home from work. He works for the bungie.net corporation and he told me the exact order to get the skulls. I would get them my self but im not one of the best players out there so here is the list. And by the way, u did not get this infromation off me, because if Bungie.net finds out about this, they will probably fire my dad so don't tell.

1. Envy
2. Ghost
3. Anger
4. ThunderStorm
5. Famine
6. I would have been your daddy
7. Blind
8. Grunt
9. Black
10. Catch
11. Sputnik
12. Iron
13. Mystic
14. Assassins
15. Winner

Posted by: UNKNOWN on December 19, 2004 6:53 PM

Hey, my dad also told me after you found all of the skulls in order, there will be a secret ending, but he dont know what kind of ending it is, because thats classified infromation. Only little people that work for the Bungie.Net Corporation know what kind of ending it is.

Posted by: UNKNOWN on December 19, 2004 7:05 PM

Oh man, that was F~n sweet!!!! Tell you dad i love him. MC is a pimp. He never loose ya know

Posted by: zack on December 19, 2004 10:48 PM

Your dad works for Bungie, yet has AOL at home?

Posted by: Skinmeister on December 20, 2004 6:39 PM

what the hell is the winner skull and where could it be found

i and my bro have been tryin to get all the skulls just it is repetitive

and what about the super weapons like the scarab gun which i heard was part of another Acronym

Posted by: HT5 on December 20, 2004 11:44 PM

Well the thing is, i doubt that bungie will find out about this, and the winner skull is the same thing as the w...? that yall posted. And I know nothing about getting the Scarab gun to use. But I know for a fact that on January 15, 2005, bungie is putting new stages for you to download on xbox live. That's just something that you all should know. And why do we have aol, (you asked) because maybe we like to get online and look at stuff!!!! well i got to get off of here. see ya

Posted by: UNKNOWN on December 21, 2004 12:51 AM

Actually, I must confess. My dad doesn't work for the Bungie.Net Corporation. Sorry, I just wanted all of you to listen to me. I hope you forgive me, I didn't want to cause any trouble. Good luck with the skulls... I am still stuck trying to get them.

Posted by: UNKNOWN on December 21, 2004 1:11 PM

Man... i hope someone can figure this out... maybe someone could email bungie and they might be nice enough to help us out :)

Posted by: Lucas on December 22, 2004 12:02 AM

by the way i agree with "ME" :P ^^^


so, that new shit on Jan. 15th is just bullshit or what? thanx a lot -_-

Posted by: Lucas on December 22, 2004 12:09 AM

Um, has anyone ever tried picking up that skull in the Armory and then kill Johnson with it? "That's just WRONG" Get it? ... Just a thought.

Posted by: dup2869 on December 22, 2004 12:59 PM

Here is a new one, straight from Halo 2: IOHBOY

I found it after dying, my camera angle went berserk and ended up displaying a wall with those letters on it! It was on the Metropolis level.

Posted by: close_the_refrigirator_please on December 22, 2004 1:05 PM

"Here is a new one, straight from Halo 2: IOHBOY

I found it after dying, my camera angle went berserk and ended up displaying a wall with those letters on it! It was on the Metropolis level."

where on metropois was this? anyone have anything new on the skulls?

Posted by: some guy on December 22, 2004 3:40 PM

on the bungie.net forums theres a skull for w its like whumpawumapuss i dont remember but u guys should check it out it might help

Posted by: paul on December 22, 2004 5:16 PM

JNAMSFTFY

FY - f**k you..

we know Bungie has a penchent for expletives..

Posted by: n_nlemon on December 23, 2004 12:48 PM

it "Whuppopotamus"

Posted by: headcount on December 24, 2004 12:05 AM

hmmm...i just noticed that MJOLNIR, master chief's armor, sorta looks like an acronym....~.^;

Man...Bungie's developers are so confusing...

Posted by: Fredgeot on December 24, 2004 10:03 AM

the Scarb gun is at metropolis level u need 2 move the banshee all the way through the tunnel,then u will find a hole after coming out of the tunnel fly the banshee and there will b a plasma rifle floating above a cone, pick it up (stand back because when u shot u will go flying).

Posted by: Magicstyck500 on December 26, 2004 4:34 PM

You guys are right, EGATFIBGBCSIMAW stands for the skulls. I havn't found all the skulls yet, and some im not good enough to get. I do know that I Would Have Been Your Daddy is a skull. Theres no infinite. And Whumpupottamus, or w/e u guys said, fits the description of the skull i found at the Great Journey. My shields stopped recharging, but when i melee shields come back, and I meleed upto overshield. Maybe this helps, maybe not. All I know is I knew of the skull referance for about 3 weeks before i read this, but... JNAMSFTFY has me completely dumbfounded.

Posted by: Chill on December 26, 2004 7:41 PM

I found all the skulls in any or every order and still zilch although i was playing oddball on xbox live at zanzibar after pressing the BSOD and the skull that i was carrying went all haywire on me and some how the game stopped and no 1 had left except the skull never came back and then i died from the gurdians. This is all true i swear 2 u.

Posted by: magicstyck500 on December 26, 2004 9:06 PM

ok so there must be a connection between the BSOD on zanzibar and on delta halo there has gotta be a message i'm new here but i've beatin every difficulty, gotten every skull, and still wut am i rewarded with some weird FMV at the end of the credits? This has got 2 end guys we should band together nd play halo 2 campignh from dawn till dusk that is how deprite i am 2 now the secret ( and it better be a good one or i'm gonna kick some halo 2 game gesighner ass!)

Posted by: magicstyck500 on December 26, 2004 9:12 PM

Breakthrough(almost) wel i was just playing either outskirts or mertropolis and i found a intersing swahili sign i dunno wut the hell it says but wut ever it means could be something very improtant 2 out questions. If u know swahili uhh well thats weird, but i will research it.

Posted by: magicstyck500 on December 26, 2004 9:19 PM

ok this is really really erie i found out wut the swahili meant it means FORERUNNER COMPANY!So the question is raised in-game why the covenant decided to land there. In that level, they end up heading straight at that building. Any thoughts?That also raises the question could the forerunners worked with the humans? Could it be the exciting conclusion of halo 3? This is a tense moument i think i'm gunna cry. All signs r pointing 2 yes that the humans worked with the forerunners but the files of that may have been broken by the guily sparks also bringing in the flood, ok the humans and forerunners r on a ship and they see a ring/halo the forerunners a bafounded and start 2 worship this thing while the humans say oh this thing is just some big ass hunk of floating space junk then an uprise bigins, though in the first halo it said the forerunners built halo that may not have been true the guilty sparks could have changed that file so the covenant would believe that the humans had angerd the gods. OK i know i'm a halo/halo 2 fan but this is all just a hunch i belive that it may be true and the key to beholding the story line to halo 3. But that doesn't matter because in halo 4 sarge gets a girlfriend(bungie.net).

Posted by: magicstyck500 on December 26, 2004 9:30 PM

explain this cowbell thing

Posted by: sUPERjew on December 27, 2004 1:02 PM

ABTFIPASO5... ah bet the flood is pissed at sergeant on 5?

Posted by: D on December 27, 2004 1:54 PM

JNAMSFTFY- just name a mutha' still fit to fight yeroen ? or "just name another man stuck fighting the flood, yo!"?

Posted by: D on December 27, 2004 1:57 PM

ahh so the pieces r all coming together that means that we need 2 read the halo books 2 understand wut these acronyms mean because these could probably help us wit the skulls.

Posted by: magicstyck500 on December 27, 2004 6:05 PM

THE FORERUNNER COMPANY! thats erie just read my first hunch,k guys it explains everything.

Posted by: magicstyck500 on December 27, 2004 6:15 PM

Hey, maybe after you get all the skulls in the right order, go to zanzibar get the skull, go to the BSOD activate it and smack it with the skull. It says sumthin like "If system does not restart bang on keypad and scream at top of lungs." Just a thought!

Posted by: The Voicez on December 29, 2004 9:37 PM

This below is true! Damien C is a bungie engineer! He is Damian Isla! Note how he says "This is the real deal!" Here is a link to who found this out! I'm just saying this looks to be correct. http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=1302245&postRepeater1-p=2

It is the 8th post down.

I figured out the acronym for the skull list form the soundtrack:
Here it is:
Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assasins
Thunderstorm
Famine
**I would have been your daddy** (new)
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
**Ice Cream** (new)
Mythic
Angry
**Whuppopotamus** (new)

This is the real deal!

Posted by: Damian C on November 19, 2004 01:55 AM

Posted by: The Voicez on December 29, 2004 11:41 PM

alright mayb no 1 will know this secret mayb its bigger than we excepect it might revele something like a horrible secret of some sort but wut could it b i really don't know,sure u guys r in college and have kids, but i'm 14 (but at least my balls dropped), i think somebody knows that secret we r all trying 2 find. So i'm saying this try every glitch u know and try every hidden spot in the game, we will crack the bungie code because its all 4 one and won 4 all.

Posted by: magicstyck500 on December 30, 2004 12:21 PM

wow you are all a bunch of crazy fuckers. . . but I am very interested in learning what you find I love halo and all things halo, wearing a halo shirt right now, I still haven't beat the game on normal hahaha I should do that soon good luck

Posted by: PeaceMaker117 on December 30, 2004 3:58 PM

There is another set of letters on the halo 2 soundtrack. They are not bolded. Here it is mnngsbffs.

I am not taking credit for this, it was found by some guy on the bungie.net forums, I'm just sharin the love.

Posted by: The Voicez on December 30, 2004 7:31 PM

just some W words i found in an odd "devil's dictionary" book suprisingly it had some of the words you guys had

W
1. 43rd president of the United States.
2. the cube root of the nine most ill-‌considered space saving syllables ever to enter the vernacular.
W3C
hacker spelling for wec, a slang combination of wack and weak; as in, “Those standards recommendations are w3c, man.”
wake-n-bake
1. a pop-‌culture expression meaning to smoke marijuana immediately after rising in the morning.
2. a fairly good time.
war
an historical weather pattern that has kept the populations of every nation in professional and conversational fodder for 10,000 years and counting.
warblog
a blog [sic] which is written by someone who is morally opposed to killing and thus supports war to keep people safe.
see also cognitive dissonance.
Washington, DC
a gigantic monochromatic terrarium of the underclass cared for by sloppy drunks and members of the House and Executive branch as well.
water
1. hydrated fluoride.
2. bottled fruit punch with salt.
3. urine; typical usage, to make water; sometimes a second step is added, to make water to wine.
weapons of mass destruction
1. abrv WMD, a substance or apparatus, especially poisons and biological weapons, which can be used to injure or kill great numbers of people; WsMD include exotic and difficult to create weapons like aerosol anthrax and VX gas, as well as many easily made weapons like ricin, one of the deadliest poisons known, which can be made by any 6-year-old from a few seeds of the widely available and easily grown castor bean.
2. boo!
weather girl
a woman who waited till the last minute to enroll in her journalism courses and was left with Meteorology 227: Streaking and Highlighting.
see also weather man.
weather man
1. a congenital liar.
2. a grinning dip-‌stick in the oil pan of local news.
3. a compulsive gambler whose only hope of ever winning a wager is to visit Las Vegas in mid-‌August.
see also weather girl.
web developer
one who takes pornographic photographs of one’s girlfriends when they are drunk or sleeping and develops them to be posted online.
webmaster
1. what dungeon masters whose friends have outgrown the third ruleset and moved on have taken to calling themselves.
2. friendless; dateless; hopeless.
weed
an undesirable plant of no value…say, that’s odd, it’s actually quite expensive around here.
weekend
the single benefit realized through the manifold interpretations of the Bible.
weight lifter
a 98lb weakling encased in creatine, ephedra, and the stink of inadequacy.
see also body builder.
wetback
derogatory term for Mexican immigrants, referring to the midnight swim that once brought many across the Rio Grande into the US; the term is offensive and baseless however, as all are able to towel-‌off before they take an American’s job away.
what
once a proper interrogative, now used almost exclusively to express irritability, exasperation, or disgust.
whatever
1. the definitive word for 21st century American culture, “Generation W.”
2. an internal sigh of submission; the appropriate attitude for maintaining one’s place of employment.
3. a passive-‌aggressive utterance which lashes out at an opposing point of view while attempting to eliminate the possibility of further discussion.
wheel
1. that which one is discouraged from re-‌inventing by tenet of the popular Stone Age revivalist movement.
2. that which one is actively, abusively discouraged from re-‌inventing by those whose wheels might not favorably compare.
whisker biscuit
an after dinner treat and dental floss rolled into one.
see also beaver.
whiskey
1. the amniotic fluid endemic to the Irish.
2. ambrosia.
3. the most faithful of wives.
whistle blower
a Tokyo prostitute.
white
1. ashamed.
2. imitative, lacking identity, monkey-‌like.
3. colorless, uninteresting, dull, without flavor.
white elephant
your own magazine.
white man
1. the Devil.
2. an off-‌brand, generic human being.
white man's burden
his brethren.
white trash
1. an Anglo-‌Saxon porch nigger.
2. absolutely anyone with a plastic American flag on display.
Whitey
1. the Man.
2. a scapegoat preferred by 4 out of 5 underclasses.
whoah
an expression, usually as interjection, indicating a strong desire to stop; eg, “Whoah, majenta!”
whore
a woman who barters sexual favor for material gain, as cash, jewelry, a house, a two car garage, etc; a bride.
compare with slut.
wife
a pay-‌as-‌you-‌go replacement for one’s mother.
more at bride.
wife-beater
1. a tank-‌top shirt, usually white, referred to glibly as its stereotypical bearer.
2. an undeniable practicality in freedom of movement.
wish
1. v, to suppress.
2. n, a dream.
see also pointless.
WOB
acronym, woman owned business; adv & adj, wobly.
woman
1. research indicates it is impossible for an almost exclusively white male staff to define this word in its most commonly used form, therefore we provide nothing as the first definition.
2. it’s been, really, very clearly implied that we shan’t either provide a second or third definition for reasons a bit more difficult to explain.
3. read two more carefully.
4. a female; possessing the power to carry and bring life; the very essence of life.
5. one that inspires fascination and adoration in a man (and about 6 out of 10 women); the very essence of beauty; a focus of worship, especially in art.
6. oh, Jesus fucking Christ.
womb
Paradise lost and only too infrequently regained.
word
a compact weapon of many varieties, each comprising sharp edges and barbs, with an entirely inadequate grip.
work
a powerful allergen.
worry
the act of planning something more than once.
worsen
1. to politicize.
2. to actively attempt to fix or improve.
3. to advertise.
see also diversify.
worship
from the Middle English whoreship; to adore and support something inappropriate or immoral.
wrath
what Hell hath plenty of, thank you.
writ
n, something written; now that this beast has been slain, a question perhaps best addressed by the Bard remains: the Lawyer question.
writer
a Philistine de plume.
writing
the result when a fool describes intelligence, a fiend describes grace, or a sodomist describes romance.
wrong
1. in Western philosophy, precisely one half of right.
2. in Eastern philosophy, what all rights must be repaid with to ensure universal harmony.
WTO
1. the primary sponsor of international Anarchist rallies.
2. a manufacturer of gas masks which resorts to the most bizarre marketing campaigns imaginable to pump up sales.
WW I
1. World War I (one); the Great War.
2. The War to End All Wars: Episode I.
3. a cautionary tale titled, I Don’t Even Know What an Archduke Is –or– What Can Come of Shooting a Single Kraut.
see also WW II and war.
WW II
1. World War II; The Big One; humanity being a bit peckish yet inquired, “Perhaps some dessert is available, say, Korea, Central Africa, Indochina, Afghanistan, Eastern Europe, oh, let’s just go with the sampler.”
2. The War to End All Wars; the human race, being overly sentimental, has dragged the goodbye out a bit.
see also WW I and war

Posted by: sean on December 31, 2004 3:09 AM

Some of that is offensive and has no relevance to the acronym topic. It should be deleted.

Posted by: Shaolin on December 31, 2004 4:15 PM

Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Ice Cream
Mythic
Angry
Whuppopotamus

E-G-A-T-F-I-B-G-B-C-S-I-M-A-W

Owned.

Posted by: I FOUDN TEH HALO 2 SOUNTRACK ACRONYM on December 31, 2004 6:42 PM

i think ILWNL could be "I like winning, not losing."

Posted by: sum1 on January 1, 2005 5:30 PM

for mrtefcfy, maybe my rank tops every fucking clan, fuck you?

Posted by: snail_on_speed on January 1, 2005 8:45 PM

hey, i am a big fan of this forum and stuff... i really wish that all this work will payoff and that it will open something new in h2. But by looking at the other acronyms i think that the letters relating the skulls are just standing for the names of the skulls... not somecrazy order that they must be picked up in. This does lead to the question as to why the skulls are listed in an order that isnt natural to how you would pick them up in the game. Like i said, i hope that this does uncover some deep halo2 bungie secret.

Posted by: me on January 2, 2005 8:33 PM

the one for halo pc --> ILWNL

COULD BE , I Love Winning Not Losing

Posted by: Adad Morales on January 3, 2005 7:48 AM

actually HIH has added a code that was found that states all of the "skulls in the order of the acronym which i believe to be the correct order it is as follows:

envy, grunt birthday party, assasin, thunderstorm, i would have been your daddy, blind, ghost, black eye, catch, sputnik, ice cream, mythic, angry, whuppopotamus

so thats that i may be wrong hell what do i know about acronyms

PEACE OUT
-AD-

Posted by: Arato on January 3, 2005 9:22 PM

for mrtefcfy, how about
must return the enemies flag cause' fuck you

Posted by: Hindu on January 4, 2005 11:54 AM

If only ONE word is wrong in "WUBNMH," then I think that the last word is "Homes," (as in "homeboy"), not "Holmes." I thought "Holmes" was a strange thing to put in that phrase. Just seems out of place. When a guy comes at you saying, "What up, bitch?" its not customary to reply "Not much, Holmes."

Posted by: dgrandy on January 4, 2005 11:30 PM

just a thought WUBNMH "whats up bungie not much something something

Posted by: steventual on January 5, 2005 6:36 AM

EGATFIBGBCSIMAW
you do realise that there are 256 possible permutations of that acronym with some of the skulls initial letter being the same?
that would take....a while, to say the least, to do all of those.
+ some unlucky people would have to do the rest of the skulls with assasins in effect.

Posted by: sam on January 7, 2005 11:58 AM

General musings...

I believe it's in the Halo 2Theatrical Trailer, the one with the www.ilovebees.com ending. If you check it out it shows very short clips from a multiplayer match. If you're quick you can make out "You killed Regret i" and "Johnson killed Pity". It's interesting that there is an "i" after Regret. Perhaps there is a Regret II or something. Pity might be another Prophet or an early name for Mercy that got changed before the game shipped.

Also there is a shot where Master Chief is loading a Sub Machine Gun. On the gun is etched some Asian characters plus "Kai 9x50mm" or something like that. (Not sure, don't have the clip handy right now)

Finally TATRTSTS might be in response to the the Cortana letters (http://marathon.bungie.org/story/cortana.html). Cortana talks about "Receving The Strangest Transmissions Sometimes." RTSTS

That's it.

Posted by: TBurninator on January 7, 2005 5:25 PM

damn.. im not smart enough 2 suggest nething in hee.. ill just say that ur all up 2 good work so far.. keep it up i wanna know if its sumthing 2 do with a new ending or a new level or SUMTHING new.

Posted by: hi im (your name here) on January 7, 2005 7:18 PM

Hey, could find out what objects are found near each of the skulls? For instance, I know Thunderstorm is under a trash can, and has a burning cigar next to it... and 4 grenades and a spotting scope/monocular are found near the blind skull...

Any more?

Posted by: SolemnDusk on January 8, 2005 12:39 PM

I think TBurninator may be on to something, but I can't prove that it's significant.

Posted by: Andrew Nagy on January 10, 2005 2:52 PM

a thought upon the mistery "w" word in the EGATFIBGBCSIMAW acronym

W'rkncacnter

i never personally played marathon, might that mean something to someone here who did?

Posted by: sam on January 13, 2005 12:22 PM

I have only read about halfway down this page, but I have an idea, what if the nameless skull doesn't have a name YET! Maybe it's the last skull and it doesn't get named till you get all the others. Making "win" or "wonderful" good possibilities.

Posted by: Dctoymachine on January 14, 2005 12:34 AM

I think the long one for the Halo 2 soundtrack-EGATFIBGBCSIMAW-could be Every Gamer Always Tries For Immortal Bungie Glory Because Cock Suckers In Multiplayer Always Win.

Posted by: Gunslinger_19 on January 14, 2005 2:41 PM

Ok, first off, I Would Have Been Your Daddy was a screen in the original halo, maybe there is a clue hidden in that level that we originally thought was unimportant.

Second...so many damn repeaters >_<

Posted by: NsOmNiA on January 14, 2005 7:19 PM

Irritating Little Whiner Needs a Licking

Posted by: vyros on January 15, 2005 3:11 PM

OK now i kinda stole half of this but the Halo Pc one might Imagine Life With No Laggers? i kinda like it got a ring to it.... how about you griff? sorry im brain dead

Posted by: James on January 15, 2005 11:50 PM

some skulls location can sometimes lead yo somewhere secert

Posted by: EL ZORRO on January 16, 2005 11:08 AM

THOSE SKULLS R EVIL, THEY'RE MAKING US FIGHT! FUCK THOSE SKULLS AND PLAY SOME HALO 2!

Posted by: magicstyck500 on January 17, 2005 12:23 PM

I wonder why the Armory Skull(unnamed) is different to the others? in the fact that you don't have to press "X" to grab it and you just have to touch it or be near it to grab it.

Posted by: Cranberrydude on January 17, 2005 6:35 PM

I think you don't have to "press X" because you don't have a weapon in hand. and you automatically pick up stuff. Try it out on multiplayer, and use the plasma pistol trick to discard all of your weapons.

Posted by: hairyBrute on January 17, 2005 6:59 PM

yea hairy is probably right its not the question of the century but is getting there because we don't know much about the skulls (except that they do stuff to either make the game harder or easier).

Posted by: magicstyck500 on January 18, 2005 4:39 PM

Umm... couldn't the connection be foundation? it was in myth too.

Posted by: brandon on January 19, 2005 1:53 AM

Probably,since its so new (foundation).1. it has a picture of some guy with either long hair or girl i can't really tell.2. there is a monkey riding a rocket. And in burial mounds theres that funny thing on the very top, there"why am i here" on that rock at beaver creek,the golden "m" on the very very very top of cougulation,and well that all i know they might be clues,cheats,glicthes i hoenstly can't say.

Posted by: magicstyck500 on January 19, 2005 7:17 PM

WUBNMH is clearly "What's up bitch? Not much hoe."

Duh.

Posted by: Dan on January 20, 2005 12:33 PM

Also, "EGATFIBGBCSIMAW" is:

E: Envy
G: Grunt Birthday Party
A: Assassins
T: Thunderstorm
F: Famine
I: I Would Have Been Your Daddy
B: Blind
G: Ghost
B: Black Eye
C: Catch
S: Sputnik
I: Ice Cream
M: Mythic
A: Angry
W: Whuppopotamus

(The skulls in the game.)

Seriously, easy stuff.

Posted by: Dan on January 20, 2005 12:47 PM

Envy
Ghost or Grunt B-day
Assassins or Angry
Thunderstorm
Famine
Iron or I would have been your daddy
Blind or Black eye
Grunt B-day or Ghost
Black eye or Blind
Catch
Sputnik
I would have been your daddy or Iron
Mythic
Angry or assassins
W? most likely armory skull,possibly wordless

Posted by: F52 on January 20, 2005 4:50 PM

there are 16 possible combinations using the EGATFIBGBCSIMAW.I Have a saved profile before each skull and am going to do each combination,but its gonna take a while because of the IWHBYD skull .You can only use the save once because when you get the"I Would Have Been Your Daddy" it checkpoints.

Posted by: F52 on January 20, 2005 4:58 PM

ILWNL
incompetent losers will not leave
juss a guess

Posted by: N1GHT on January 25, 2005 6:45 PM

I don't know what the w in EGATFIBGBCSIMAW is but im pretty sure the effect is no matter what enemies can see you

Posted by: Bobby3 on January 29, 2005 11:41 PM

I'm sorry i cant be of any more help but this is all i know

Posted by: Bobby3 on January 29, 2005 11:46 PM

Halo 2 Soundtrack Volume One is two for one:
EGATFIBGBCSIMAW and MNNGSBTFS
Now figure out the puzzle

Posted by: No One on February 1, 2005 7:01 AM

Envy
Grunt birthday party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
I would have been your daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Angry
Would it help if I said please

Posted by: F52 on February 3, 2005 4:42 PM

Thanks for the info F52 now all we have to do is get them in that order.

Posted by: Bobby3 on February 4, 2005 3:56 PM

MNNGSBTFS could be "Many nights never getting sleep before the first shipment"

Posted by: ninja of fire on February 8, 2005 9:08 PM

"MRTEFCFY is damn tough to crack. But I'll give you a clue. It came up in a conversation recently due to a certain completely unexpected relationship between Myth: TFL and Halo 2."

I think the relationship may have to do with Marty the audio director at bungie, he is one of three i believe that have worked on myth and halo 2. In other words, he's been at bungie for a while

Posted by: ALiuzer on February 9, 2005 9:00 PM

Marty Really Tests Every Fuckin Crack For You

Posted by: Brad on February 14, 2005 12:40 AM

Whats up with that www.ilovebees.com website. you click on the 1st or 3rd link when it loads and IE says error 404 page not found, but you click middle link and it takes you somewhere. whats the deal with this site. was it just put on that trailer to make fun of it and make people go there to flood this poor womans site? or what the hell is the point of it?

Posted by: BigMike on February 15, 2005 3:57 AM

every
gamer
attempts
to
find
it
but
gives
because
collecting
skulls
is
making
all
wacky

Posted by: dan on February 15, 2005 7:27 PM

I have a suspicion that this final skull, or any other Halo secrets, have something to do with Marathon... The game contains the whole thing with the number '7', as does Halo, with, 1, 7, 8, and 17. Anybody else agree?

Posted by: z!nk on February 16, 2005 9:40 PM

"The 15 letter one is a clue to a puzzle of sorts."

There are presumabely 17 skulls, 16 of which were found. While I agree this has to do with the skulls, it might not, since there are only 15 letters. Maybe there is something we are missing...

But then again, there is the un-named skull, and the final skull, which hasn't been found. Maybe the final skull is impossible to get to, or, just isn't in the actual game, anywhere, or, it's meant to be the last skull, and this acronym is a hint, somehow, in some form.

Maybe I'm reading too deep into this...

Posted by: z!nk on February 16, 2005 9:47 PM

Sorry for the triple post, but...

I also have a suspicion that Halo and Marathon are connected... Maybe in the same universe, and that's all. And Halo and Myth might be connected... Hmmm... Maybe there are hints in Bungie's past games?

Then again, I read too deep into things.

Posted by: z!nk on February 16, 2005 9:50 PM

Boy I wish I could edit, but -

"2. Strangely enough, the group that composed and performed the Marathon 2 music is called Power of Seven."

And the connection between Myth and Halo, would have to do with music...

Maybe Halo and Marathon's connection have to do with music?

Damn me, I feel like a noob with this quadruple post, but I feel the need to say this... I think there might be a connection.

Posted by: z!nk on February 16, 2005 9:55 PM

I think it means

Just
Not
As
Many
Sales
For
The
Fiscal
Year

Not really, but it is at least one more of the many views submitted on this subject

Posted by: GrantBauer88 on February 17, 2005 6:54 PM

I have tried to do some of the skull combinations but I got stuck on IWHBYD. It sux

Posted by: EmoSux on February 17, 2005 10:31 PM

BTW

wat new single player options would be unlocked any way

Posted by: EmoSux on February 17, 2005 10:34 PM

Hey, i think that one guy might be right about gettin the skulls in the right order to have the last ones name, but (this is just a guess) maybe the "W" standa for, windows, winner, win, won, wonderful? i dont know.

Posted by: ronnie on February 19, 2005 11:00 PM

Hey, guys, i have the answer to all our prayers... Arranged & Editted By Matt "Junkie" Spartacus
Contact Information in [contact_me]
Version 1.5.2

+-----------------+
|Table of Contents|
+-----------------+

I. Introduction
a. Forward
b. Skull History
c. Version History
d. Contact Information

II. The Skulls
a. Important Preliminary Notes
b. Confirmed Skulls
i. Cow Bell (The Blank Skull)
ii. Thunderstorm
iii. Blind
iv. Catch
v. Grunt Birthday Party
vi. Famine
vii. Envy
viii. Assassins
ix. Mythic
x. Sputnik
xi. Angry
xii. Ghost
xiii. Iron
xiv. Black Eye
xv. I Would Have Been Your Daddy

III. Theories
a. EGATFIBGBCSIMAW Acronym
b. JNAMSFTFY
c. EGM's Pondering Explored
d. Other Less Cool Theories

IV. Outside Links
a. Topics Discussing Skulls
b. Unofficial Skull Sites

V. End
a. Special Thanks
b. Copyright

+---------------+
|I. Introduction|
+---------------+

a. Forward

I would like to start off by thanking you for using my FAQ. Just a quick note,
most of the writings in this FAQ were originally discovered by various people
mostly found on the Bungie.net Forums. I personally have compiled as much
information about the skulls into one, well-written FAQ. As a side note, most
places that have accepted codes or FAQs about the skulls are exact copies of
the original posts from the Bungie Forums. In my attempt, I am going to
clarify, clean up, and maintain all the information about the skulls. Since the
origins of this FAQ, I have also been maintaining all information sent to me by
other people and of my own experiences.

Also, to find specific skulls, search for them by "II.(b|c).(i-xv)". Take the
confirmed status (b or c) and the lower-case roman numeral for the corresponding
skull from the table of contents. Simply "Ctrl+F" for it.

When I use a quote from someone, it will generally not be sic as I try to avoid
that at all costs. Most quotes will be cleaned up or rewritten.

b. Skull History

The first appearance of the hidden skulls was revealed by the user Pirate117 on
the Bungie Forums in a topic titled "HIDDEN ITEM FOUND!!!!" What he revealed
was a secret area in "Outskirts" which contained a pair of scoped binoculars,
four frag grenades, and an Oddball skull that when picked up, it flashed the
words "Blind" on the bottom corner of the screen, and all items from his HUD
disappeared. This was a very significant find, but nobody knew what it could
mean. This caused much excitement on the Bungie Forums, which in turn leaked
into other forums and websites. Some speculated that the skull was for use in
the popular Halo comedy series "Red Vs. Blue" in order to get a full-screen
view of the action, but this "Blind Mode" only worked in single-player, so that
was ruled out. Others believed that this Pirate117 was a Bungie employee who
was setting everyone into the correct direction. Others believed he had
acquired the game before the release date, thus allowing him to have more time
to search for easter eggs such as this.

The conclusion was made that the three items together formed the phrase
"Search For Skulls", each acquiring meaning from the binoculars, four grenades,
and the skull. On a side note, the binoculars zoomed in at 8x instead of the
traditional sniper 10x; this may play an importance in the speculation as well.

It wasn't long before information about other skulls started to form together.
With a boost of confidence, many people began to extensively search all the
levels in Campaign mode, looking for more skulls. It was soon discovered that
most of the skulls could only be found in Legendary, thus scaring away the less-
than-stellar Halo 2 gamers from attempting to help solve this puzzle. With the
miniscule amount of information available about the skulls, some people took
advantage of this and reported legitimate-sounding fake skulls, thus screwing
some people up in their quest for the truth.

Lists began to be compiled, and many others tested the validity of each reported
skull, thus allowing progress to continue at a decent rate. As of now, there
have been fourteen confirmed skull findings, including the original Blind skull,
while there are still a couple odd skulls that cannot be fully confirmed or
tested due to complexities at this time.

c. Version History

1.5.2 - 22-Jan-2005
A few minor layout changes, minor skull updates, JNAMSFTFY update, some other
bits and pieces removed from the FAQ, other theory sections updated to current
findings.

1.5.1 - 16-Jan-2005
A couple ideas submitted for the JNAMSFTFY acronym regarding which skulls they
correspond to. Also updated how to get the Thunderstorm skull.

1.5.0 - 08-Jan-2005
Sorry for the lack of updates (even though they aren't too huge usually), but
I had computer problems and a lack of interest in going online. I've added some
updates accrued from emails to me from you helpful contributors. The acronym
section has been updated again with an interesting find from halomods.com.

1.4.0 - 26-Dec-2004
After a great Christmas, I went back on the internet to check out how I could
update this FAQ. After receiving about 20 emails since last time, I have found
some stuff to update. Some skulls updated, other nitbits. See if you can catch
them all!

1.3.0 - 18-Dec-2004
Made updates to quite a few skulls (after eighty million emails, thank you very
much). Added a couple "features" to the skull detail boxes.

1.2.0 - 14-Dec-2004
Fixed the Envy skull description (wrong area), clarified the Black Eye skull.
Received some information about other things, but not needed to put in the FAQ
yet.

1.1.0 - 11-Dec-2004
After my FAQ finally being put up, I received a few emails already. I have
added an alternate method to finding the Envy skull (which needs to be confirm-
ed as usual) along with the confirmation of the theoretical location of the I
Would Have Been Your Daddy skull, but beyond the pool of blood, we still do not
know if the skull is true. Also, a possibly major addition to the acronym
theory has been added regarding the 8x scope and the possibility of its rele-
vance in accruing the skulls in the correct order.

1.0.0 - 26-Nov-2004
Decided that a new and better Skull FAQ had to be written, especially with the
available information at my fingertips that have found no legible way into
GameFAQs. I'm also sick of reading the same damn explanation for every skull
with the same horrible grammar, spelling, and descriptions each and every time.
So far, this is merely a compilation of all the information I've found. I
intend on amending this information and adding my own discoveries as time
passes. This took at least 3-4 hours to write as I wrote everything from
scratch, although the methods to doing many of these things have already been
[poorly] documented. About 4 root beers and 2 kittens gave their lives to
write this (and 2 domokuns just died for saying that).

d. Contact Information [contact_me]

BEFORE CONTACTING ME: Make sure your comment or question hasn't been mentioned
already in this FAQ. Check the notes section for tips, too!

I am absolutely willing to take comments, additions, and error reports regarding
this FAQ, just as long as you are willing to follow directions. You may email
me at with the subject containing "Halo 2".

Also, my last name really isn't Spartacus, but I would like to change it to that
one day...

+--------------+
|II. The Skulls|
+--------------+

a. Important Preliminary Notes

- Most skulls are found on *Legendary* and can be found on either single-player
or cooperative play.

- If you feel that Legendary is too hard, I suggest checking out the Legendary
FAQ written by Tom Race (halo_2_legendary.txt in this directory). He provides
excellent strategies in completing levels on Legendary and also includes some
skull descriptions to add fun challenges to the game.

- Skulls are picked up with the X button (pick up/swap weapons button). Only
one of the skulls (AFAIK, please confirm) can be kept as a weapon, and it can
be also kept as a third weapon.

- Some skulls will increase the difficulty of the game, others may decrease it,
while others may just add an interesting twist to the game. Combinations of
effects can be either fun, challenging, or may unlock an unknown secret that
we so desperately are searching for.

- Skull effects will last either a long period of time or until the player
restarts his/her Xbox. The effect of each skull can only be completely wiped
via this method (i.e. dropping the skull or dying won't negate the effect).

- Taking into account the aforementioned effect, you can gather the skulls a lot
easier by simply making a profile for each skull. You can probably take a
complete profile and copying it about 15 times, and save it at the checkpoint
right before each skull. The skull effects will affect all profiles, so you
can test the order of collection in a very short amount of time.

- There are no known rewards or unlockables with gathering skulls, but there may
be some very intriguing effects from acquiring the skulls in a specific,
yet unknown fashion. This is, of course, subject to change if someone finds
the theoretical method of collecting the skulls

- If you can confirm an unconfirmed skull or add an additional strategy, method,
or clarification to acquiring the skull, please feel free to contact me. You
will be credited for your submission, but if you find the information from
another source, please don't simply copy and paste the description. Instead,
you may link to the source, cite the source with your email, or "word it in
such a way that it portrays the same idea but with different wording."

- In the future, I hope to get maps of the levels with a marker where the skull
is, but first I need to contact Prima Games to see if I can use their maps.

- Also, if you have suggestions on how to improve my FAQ in general, go ahead
and contact me.

Format:

(You know how to use these, right?)--v
+--Skull-Name-----------------Level-Location---------------SearchCode+
| Comprehensible directions on finding the skull is detailed here. |
| |
| Effect: Explained in English for your convenience. |
| |
| Notes: Anything else you or I might want to know about it. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+
A checkbox for your collecting convenience ---^

b. Confirmed Skulls

+--Cow-Bell-------------------Armory-----------------------II.b.i----+
| After your diagnostics are complete, Sgt Johnson will tell you to |
| follow him onto the elevator. Simply stay put until Johnson says |
| "Would it help if I said 'Please?'" Now you may join him on the |
| elevator. Follow him into the monorail afterwards, making sure |
| to be as close to the window/door on the opposite side of the way |
| you came in. As the monorail moves to the end of this level, the |
| next room contains the skull. At the end of the room, there is a |
| stack of boxes; the skull is on the ground, behind the stack. You |
| can grab it through the window/door. |
| |
| Effect: [speculation] Enemies can see you easier. |
| [speculation] Weapons are stronger. |
| |
| Notes: This skull can only be found in Legendary. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Thunderstorm---------------Cairo-Station----------------II.b.ii---+
| In the chapter "Priority Shift", procede until you take out all |
| the enemies in the Armory and the following commons room. From |
| the entrance of Commons B.01, run over to the opposite corner of |
| the room, and take the stairs up to the alcove with the Covenant |
| turret. From here, look to the left and jump to the long risen |
| platform that spans across the room. Next, using one of the |
| slanted metal bars as a riser, jump to the 2 metal bars that span |
| across the room. Follow these to the end of the room (above the |
| doorway you entered), and you'll see another ledge to the left in |
| front of some windows with a trash can in the corner. Knock the |
| trash can out of the way; the skull (and a cigar) will be on the |
| ground where the trash once was. |
| |
| Effect: All Grunts and Elites will be transformed into their |
| silver/white-armored versions of themselves with the same power & |
| stats as their silver/white counterparts. |
| |
| Notes: None? |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Blind----------------------Outskirts--------------------II.b.iii--+
| At the start of this level, continue into the door straight ahead |
| as normal. When you enter, take notice of the rectangular light- |
| fixture. Jump onto either one, then Crouch Jump to the roof to |
| the left of the way you enter. If this is your first time, it |
| may take a few attempts. When on the roof, turn to your left, |
| towards the dark passage between the two buildings. Follow the |
| path to the end. There should be a pair of binoculars (that you |
| can pick up and use!), four frag grenades, and a skull. Pick up |
| the skull if you wish... |
| |
| Effect: Your HUD will disappear for Campaign mode. |
| |
| Notes: Flashlight doesn't work correctly after obtaining this. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Catch----------------------Metropolis-------------------II.b.iv---+
| Starting from the chapter, "This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both |
| of Us", proceed into the large area crawling with Jackal snipers. |
| Go ahead and snipe any that you can, then proceed to the middle |
| area. Grenade Jump your way onto the arc-like structure that |
| leads up onto a building. At the top of the arc, go left, wall- |
| hugging your way around the building. You should come across the |
| skull. |
| |
| Effect: Every AI-controlled character (allies and enemies) will |
| throw more grenades. Their accuracy is basically the same, so |
| your allies won't be too much more helpful and the enemies will |
| be as deadly as they normally are. |
| |
| Notes: Anything else I missed? |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Grunt-Birthday-Party-------The-Arbiter------------------II.b.v----+
| When you get a Banshee at the start of the chapter "To The Hunt", |
| fly to the bottom of the station. Down here, you will see three |
| enormous, cylindrical thrusters. Fly over to the middle thruster |
| and search the top portion until you find some Grunts dancing in |
| a circle. They may be a little hidden by the horizontal support |
| beam, so make sure to circle around the area until you see them. |
| Land your Banshee nearby; the skull should be near the Grunts. |
| |
| Effect: All enemies [but Hunters and Drones], when headshotted |
| while it doesn't have any active shields, will explode like a |
| plasma grenade. |
| |
| Notes: Can be done on these enemies alive or dead. Can also be |
| used on allies, but the head must be completely unobstructed by |
| any form of shielding. Will not kill invincible allies e.g. Sgt. |
| Johnson. Not useful in using on coop partner whilst in Legendary.|
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Famine---------------------Oracle-----------------------II.b.vi---+
| Enter the room containing the Flood vs. Heretics battle taking |
| place, shortly after the beginning of the level. After the |
| Heretics kill the Flood and exit, proceed down into the room as |
| usual. Stand on the lower part of the pillars that hold the |
| opposite side's glass room and shoot the glass. From here, you |
| can Crouch Jump through the glass into the glass room opposite of |
| which you entered. The skull is on the ground, surrounded by 3 |
| Combat Flood. |
| |
| Effect: Weapons enemies drop will have half the normal ammo in |
| the current chamber. This basically makes plasma weapons have |
| half ammo due to no reloading. |
| |
| Notes: Need confirmation to which weapons contain half their ammo.|
| Is it the preset weapons or is it the weapons enemies drop? |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Envy-----------------------Delta-Halo-------------------II.b.vii--+
| Near the end of the chapter "You Break It, You Buy It", you come |
| across the area containing a large central structure that contains|
| the next area and many columns in the surrounding area. Head to |
| the left towards the columns and the edge of this cliff. Go up |
| the ramp and continue down the path (forward from where you came).|
| There you will see some plasma turrets (or where they used to be |
| if you already destroyed them) on a landing. Follow the landing |
| until the end. There, you will see a door that is blocked by a |
| large stone. Jump onto the stone, then again to the thin ledge |
| above it. Get close to the left wall and grenade jump onto the |
| wall. Up here, you will see where the right wall ends with dirt |
| behind it. Jump there and follow the stone wall to the top. At |
| the top, you can look down into the center where you will see 2 |
| cloaked elites looking at each other with the skull in between |
| them. Kill them and take the skull. |
| |
| Effect: Master Chief gains the optical camo ability that only the |
| Arbiter has throughout the game. It lasts five seconds with a 10 |
| second recharge on Legendary, and it lasts longer on lower diffi- |
| culties. |
| |
| Notes: There apparently is a glitch where you can use the camo |
| infinitely for an entire level, but I will leave that to the codes|
| section on GF. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Assassins------------------Regret-----------------------II.b.viii-+
| After the first Gondola ride, chapter title "One Way Ticket", |
| head into the building and go left. Jump onto the large stone, |
| then to the light fixtures towards the ledge that leads back out- |
| side, then onto that ledge. Using Grenade Jumps and Crouch Jumps,|
| make your way up the side of the building as far as it goes. At |
| the end, you will find a ledge that leads to a small grassy area |
| with two more cloaked, dancing Elites. Take the skull and kill |
| them as you please. |
| |
| Effect: All enemies, including Grunts and Jackals, are cloaked. |
| Thus, your allies can't see them, making them as useless as they |
| were in the first Halo. |
| |
| Notes: The skull can be seen in all difficulties, but it can only |
| be activated in Legendary. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Mythic---------------------Sacred-Icon------------------II.b.ix---+
| After the Gondola ride in "Buyer's Remorse", continue onwards to |
| the piston that leads down into a dark, murky area. Look for the |
| stack of boxes and jump your way up them. At the top there is a |
| ledge with a dead Combat Flood in a small tunnel; go into this to |
| find the skull. |
| |
| Effect: A harder difficulty is set upon you. Enemies have better |
| physical defense and are stronger when it comes to glassing you. |
| |
| Notes: None? |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Sputnik--------------------Quarantine-Zone--------------II.b.x----+
| Right at the beginning, turn left to see an ally Elite. To the |
| left of him is a tunnel. Run to the tunnel and follow it through |
| until you come to a cliff. Turn left and follow the cliff until |
| you reach a rock wall. Follow the narrow passage to the right of |
| the wall; the skull is at the end. |
| |
| Effect: The weight of many objects is decreased, allowing melees |
| and explosions to send them further. |
| |
| Notes: This might be useful in discovering the unknown secret. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Angry----------------------Gravemind--------------------II.b.xi---+
| In the first chapter, after you arrive outside, go to the right |
| side of the bridge and walk on the wall of it. You will come up |
| to a higher wall with a red railing on it; Crouch Jump to it and |
| follow the path to a gravity lift. The skull is right there. |
| |
| Effect: [speculation] Grunts shoot faster. |
| |
| Notes: You can keep the skull with you as a third weapon. If you |
| know of any possible effects this has or can confirm any, please |
| let me know. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Ghost----------------------Uprising---------------------II.b.xii--+
| In the "Fight Club" chapter, make your way through to the indoor |
| area that contains a mini-armory and two L-shaped rooms that |
| connect the armory to the outside. Inside one of the L-shaped |
| rooms is a rafter that you can reach via grenade jumping. You can|
| also try using one of the boxes to jump from. The skull can also |
| be grabbed during the jump and going into the rafters may be un- |
| necessary. |
| |
| Effect: [speculation] Enemies can't see you as well. |
| [speculation] More enemies. |
| [speculation] No more checkpoints. |
| |
| Notes: Going in from the right, it is the second room. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Iron-----------------------High-Charity-----------------II.b.xiii-+
| At the end of the chapter "Sanctified", take the final grav lift |
| up to the next chapter. On the way, there is a skull that will |
| pass you by. Hold X to grab it on the way! |
| |
| Effect: Allies' defense increases to physical attacks, namely me- |
| lee attacks. This may also make them immune to being killed by |
| vehicles and increasing the defensive power of human vehicles. |
| |
| Notes: Other info helpful. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--Black-Eye------------------The-Great-Journey------------II.b.xiv--+
| In the chapter "Backseat Driver", go ahead to the large, holy |
| structure where you would use the Index to activate Halo. As you |
| arrive, fly towards the top of the dome-shaped part of the struct-|
| ure as far as you can fly. Turn your Banshee around and try to |
| land on the least steep area possible, and attempt to result in |
| your Banshee landing on the platform below in order to finish the |
| level; this is not required as the skull's effect will stay with |
| you, even if you have to jump to your untimely death first. Climb |
| the rest of the way up the slope, then onto the grassy area on |
| the other side. From there, you can climb the steep pillar in |
| the direction of the front of the structure. At the very top of |
| this is the skull. You can either reverse the process to return |
| to your Banshee or just to your untimely doom to speed things up. |
| |
| Effect: Your shields will not regenerate normally. Instead, to |
| regain health, you must melee and _kill_ someone (i.e. an enemy, |
| ally, etc.). You can gain up to a full overshield doing this, but|
| it may not be very useful against the one-hit kill attacks done |
| on you. |
| |
| Notes: Melee attack still does same damage. Killing an enemy in |
| Heroic via this will completely fill your shields back to normal |
| full. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+--I-Would-Have-Been-Your-Daddy--------Outskirts-----------II.b.xv---+
| Starting from the beginning of the level, quickly swap your rifle |
| with Johnson's sniper rifle (before the first checkpoint). From |
| here, progress through the level until Johnson gets a Pelican and |
| you receive 3 Marines. Continue through the level up to the next |
| checkpoint, that of which spawns a bunch of Sniper Jackals ready |
| to rape you with plasma. Turn around and jump onto the crates, |
| then to the roof above. Run over to the dead Marine ahead; take |
| his ammo; fire off 3 shots, and reload to have 17 shots in your |
| rifle (may be unneccessary). Jump onto the nearby blue crates; |
| grenade jump to the next roof from here. Walk across the thinger |
| to the other building; head to the bridge; jump on it, and jump |
| to the white roof nearby. At this point, you should get a load/ |
| checkpoint; if not, walk around the roof until it does. Head to |
| the shadowy area of the roof that overlooks the sniper alleys. |
| From here, jump from roof to roof until you come across a balcony |
| with clothes hanging from it. Get on and activate another check- |
| point. The skull should appear; if not, shine your light at the |
| splatter of blood on the ground near the sniper rifle. The skull |
| should appear. Pick it up and you should be transported to a |
| battle with ~7 waves of Elites, each increasing by one Elite after|
| their ultimate demise. Fight them all off and win the skull. |
| |
| Effect: Unknown |
| |
| Notes: Many people have found the skull, but as of now, the skull |
| only appears randomly. If it doesn't show up (in Legendary), re- |
| start your Xbox and try again. There may be a specific checkpoint|
| you need to activate near the area before the skull will appear. |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------[ ]+

+-------------+
|III. Theories|
+-------------+

a. EGATFIBGBCSIMAW Acronym

To those of you who are WTF'ing at that acronym, let me give a brief history of
Bungie. With every game Bungie has made, there has been an acronym on the box
that usually stood for something humorous. This acronym is found on the Halo 2
Official Sound Track CD case, and what makes it unique from the other acronyms
is that it might lead to an even bigger secret than the skulls themselves.

There are fifteen letters in this acronym, and there are either fourteen + "win"
or fifteen skulls that correspond to each letter of the acronym. For example:

Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassin
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Anger
W...? (That's Just... Wrong?)

This acronym could tell the order in which to collect the skulls and beat the
game with in order to unlock a huge secret, or it may be a bunch of shit. The
obvious problem with this is that there are four letters in the acronym that
are ambiguous to two different skulls, namely Iron and I..., Anger and Assassin,
Blind and Black Eye, and Ghost and Grunt Birthday Party.

This acronym might have to be unscrambled as an anagram to find the real order
to collect the skulls in. In this case, the unnamed skull might be a space in
the phrase, allowing the possible existance of another skull to fulfill the W in
the acronym.

Also, the items surrounding each skull may hint the location of when to acquire
that skull in a runthrough. This is all, of course, speculation and has yet to
be fully tested due to the existance of one more unfound skull and the required
patience needed to collect them all on 15 separate profiles (easiest way to re-
gain them quickly).

Another idea links the 8x scope and the skulls by either collected the 8-letter
ambiguous skulls first or last in the acronym.

Another idea submitted is using the physics-defying Sputnik skull to mess
around with boxes and such in order to possibly access new areas (or fling
things at other things). The idea is sketchy, but it adds something to consider
when searching for skulls, especially if used in the theoretical order.

A recent (well, not really recent) post on halomods.com has revealed an order of
skulls that seems to parallel with the acronym. This list was taken from the
hex dump of the mainmenu.map file. You can check it too by ripping the file
from a modded Xbox.
Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Angry
Cow Bell
That's Just... Wrong.

My idea here is that "Cow Bell" is the *blank* skull since the more popular
effect concluded from testing it was that the enemey could find you much easier.
Think about it: put a cowbell on something and whenever it moves, you'd be able
to know its location at any given time.

Now I would also like to know if anyone has any idea how "Cow Bell" fits with
the acronym. "That's Just... Wrong." fits with the W from Wrong, and that could
correspond to a 16th skull or what to do with the skulls. Does anyone think of
how you can make an Elite in multiplayer give people *cough*?

b. JNAMSFTFY Acronym

At first, I didn't include this acronym in the theories section, but due to
another hex dump (from a cache file in-game) and its close resemblance to this
acronym, I've decided to section it out.

And for more discoveries regarding actual hex dumps!

Assassins: Watch your back, the covenant are having a sale on Active camo.
Juggernaut: Brace yourself for baddies with overshields and boomsticks.
Nosferatu: Sure you're tough, but now you must suck to survive.
Say What?: Be poised if other emotional scenes tend to errupt.
Hudless: Go commando! Clear your screen of pesky status indicators.
Disembodied Soul: Experience the miserable existence of the Disembodied Soul.
Makeover: Who says the Masterchief always has to wear green?

This was found in the cache file dump. Possible translations:

Assassins = Assassin
Juggernaut = Mythic (would this give the Flood shields and shotguns?)
Nosferatu = Black Eye ("suck to survive" i.e. melee enemies to suck health back)
Say What? = Angry (emotional scene)
Hudless = Blind (the effect)
Disembodied Soul = Ghost (names are synonymous, effect may be similar to desc.)
Makeover = Envy (the camo is invisible instead of green)

Those names also seem to partly correspond with the JNAMSFTFY acronym from the
Halo 2 case, although the skull names form the letters "AMBABGE", so re-order
them or test in that order however you like. I haven't seen anyone test this
order yet to see if there actually is another secret from skull-collecting.

c. EGM's Pondering Explored

A [recent] discovery mentioned by EGM about the numbers 1 and 7 being found on
Outskirts. They asked Bungie (Mission Designer Tyson Green, Halo 2), and he
said, "There is [significance in those numbers]. It's something that's obvious
once you know what it is, but I'm not going to say--it's just a hint that tells
you the nature of something." They also mention the skulls, but no mention of
my FAQ. =(

Submitted by Captain Obvious, the most probable link between the one and seven
is with a specific part of the ending...

*!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!* - IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE GAME'S ENDING, SKIP THIS!

The seven from above may reference the seven Halos that exist, and the one may
represent the Ark which can control all of them remotely. Also, 343 Guilty
Spark notes in Halo that each Halo has an effective range of 25000 lightyears.
Take that range, multiply it by seven Halos, and you get between 175000 ly and
350000 ly, a range that would be about the size of the Milky Way...

*!!!END SPOILERS YAY!!!*

Don't forget that the number seven is a _very_ common theme in Bungie and other
Bungie-related things. Some examples (please do not submit any, they have no
importance whatsoever):

343 Guilty Spark: 343 = 7^3
Penitent Tangent 2401: 2401 = 7^4
AI units typically think themselves to death after 7 years.
There are 7 species in the Covenant Alliance.
The Bungie fanclub "7th Column"
Bungie's "Tru7h and Reconciliation"
Many maps (campaign and multiplayer) contain groups of 7 objects (e.g. trees).

d. Other Less Cool Theories

Some believe that the skulls are just there to make the game more fun, more
challenging, and more interesting. Others believe it was put in for us to waste
time until the next Halo game is released. Others feel that it was put in to
keep our minds off of the lousy ending.

+-----------------+
|IV. Outside Links|
+-----------------+

a. Topics Discussing the Skulls

The current Bungie Forum topic for this can be found at


The original hidden item found topic can be found at


b. Unofficial Links

Menace Skulls -
Contains skull information, videos of getting the skull, and other easter
eggs in Halo 2.

High Impact Halo -
Contains descriptions to each skull, a video for each, etc.

Legacy Skulls -
Contains descriptions and theories.

c. Other Halo/Bungie Links

Developer Bungie's Website -
Home to all their stuff, has forums (please leave grammar at the door),
other stuff you might find interesting.

Bungie.org's Halo Section -
Loads of Halo 2 information and discussions. They think outside the .net.

Bungie.org's Bungie Sightings Section -
Includes their archived information about the current 2 acronyms and past
Bungie acronyms for their earlier Mac/PC games.

7th Column -
The official Bungie fan club. You can probably find some groups dedicated
to the skulls if you search really hard...

Halo Mods -
This site deals with modding Halo games (most apparent is multiplayer maps)
that also touches on interesting findings in the actual maps (such as the
two acronym findings in the two map files).

+------+
|V. End|
+------+

a. Special Thanks

a.i Standard

Bungie - For making Halo 2 and all its great games that escape my mind.
Bungie Forums - For discovering the first skull and researching them for us.
GameFAQs - For hosting this FAQ.
EGM - For insighting me to take one of their comments said by some guy.
My Past English Teachers - For teaching me how to use proper English, unlike the
other compilations of skulls that are nearly impossible to understand.
Future Contributors - For helping me (theoretically) test, confirm, and develop
what is in this FAQ.
Barq's - For making such a damn fine root beer that was consumed while writing.
Electricity - For giving my electronics the juice they need to do what we as
humans are too lazy to do. And for providing for Xbox, my PC, etc.
The M Key On My Keyboard - You may have faded away, but you still hold a place
on my keyboard.
Pirates - Both the badass ones and the ones who supplied the music used while
writing this FAQ.

a.ii Specific Contributors

Patrick Shillings - alt method to Envy skull
Julian de Zulueta - new acronym theory regarding 8x
Drew Ulmer - clarification of Black Eye skull, fix for Envy skull
John McCormack - confirming IWHBYD blood balcony location
Danny Wukasch - confirming Catch skull
Jon Sandler - clearing up Mythic skull
Charles Calhoun - new possiblity of using Sputnik skull for other uses
"Avenger" - helping clarify some skulls and providing High Impact Halo vids
"AzN Fantasy Star" - helping confirm the IWHBYD skull
Jean-Paul Goulden - explanations to the mysterious 1 and 7
Bob S. - helping clarify the Envy skull
"How May I Help You" - better explanation of IWHBYD acquiring
"s00pcan" - revealing a skull order found in mainmenu.map
"Supertrek32" - list of 7-related things for theories
Eight Million Others - for redundantly submitting 7-related items
Many Others - for confirming things

b. Copyright

Sites Allowed To Host This FAQ:
GameFAQs.com
SuperCheats.com

This FAQ is Copyright 2004 Matt 'Junkie' S. This guide is for personal use
only. It can only be hosted on the aforementioned listed sites. If you see
this FAQ posted anywhere else, please let me know. If you would like to host
this FAQ, contact me and I'll give you permission. Duplication in part or in
whole is punishable by law. Restrictions apply, results may vary. Caution:
contents hot. Please keep your hands away from the blade at all times. Do not
pass go, do not collect $200. Wearing of this FAQ does not enable you to fly.
Say hi to LUEshi for me.
Thank You.

-Matt 'Junkie' S.-......none of this was done by me but i got it from another guy.

Posted by: ronnie on February 19, 2005 11:07 PM

Notice at the end of "EGATFIBGBCSIMAW" the word MAW. Remember? from halo one? the maw? i dought that is what it means, i think its the skull theory, but its just an idea.

Posted by: ronnie on February 19, 2005 11:18 PM

Ok, so I tried to skim all of this to see if it had been said yet, if I missed it I appologize. This has nothing to do with the skull search, only the acronyms at the top of the page. the last wo are: IOHBOY = I'm Only Here Because Of You. SIOHBOY = Sid, I'm Only Here Because Of You. Credit goes to Raakhr at High Impact Halo.

Posted by: Magnum177 on February 23, 2005 8:24 PM

The anger skull is only guarded by one enemy, the assassin skull has two dancing elites,

has anyone tried to put the skulls in an order by numbers?

Posted by: AHole on March 6, 2005 2:41 PM

i found the answer to an acronym that you dont even got the letters for i think at least. Ok to see it for yourselves go to your settings in the xbox dashboard and change the clock to all 7's and at the end 2007 for the year, go to split screen(Make sure not to log onto xbox live it will correct your clock)and load up the Zanzibar level walk to the beach and look at the no swimming sign. It will be different it will show a picture of something like a rabbits head and will say "are you finding ling ling's head"

ayfllh
see if you can find those letters on anything halo

Posted by: lance on March 12, 2005 10:34 PM

now that is wicked very nice find

Posted by: N1GHT on March 13, 2005 7:33 PM

r there any more times or dates(other than christmas and other major hoildays easter eggs bungie put in)?

Posted by: magicstyck500 on March 14, 2005 5:44 PM

heyas, your bigass list/faq there, you have 2 errors.

ghost = enemies/allies suffer no recoil. try it out on an elite. empty a br into his stomach. pretty hardcore, he just sits there.

and iwhbyd = new dialogue. listen to a group of marines after unlocking it's effect.

Posted by: g00dn1ghtm4r3 on March 16, 2005 1:34 AM

"MJOLNIR sounds like another acronym"

"Mjolnir" is the hammer used by the Norse god, Thor.

Posted by: jack on March 27, 2005 10:11 PM

By the way the nameless skull everyone keeps beleiveing is some fucked up word is simple.... its "wrath" then kill somone i tried the Sgt. it just says "Thats Just Wrong"

Good luck...

Posted by: adroit on March 27, 2005 10:35 PM

Just out of curiosity has anyone got all the skull effects on, then done that second skull in outskirts that causes waves of elites?

Posted by: iamaperson on March 29, 2005 9:30 AM

yeah guys i dont know if anyone figured it out yet, i didnt have time to read this whole big thing, but the skull acronym on the soundtrack goes as follows (and i'm serious):
E-Envy
G-Ghost
A-Anger
T-Thunderstorm
F-Famine
I-I Would Have Been Your Daddy
B-Bling
G-Grunt Birthday Party
B-Black Eye
C-Catch
S-Sputnik
I-Iron
M-Mythic
A-Assassins
W-Whuppopotamus (that obviously isnt the real name of this skull, but its what it's going to be called from now on, for whoever posted this name as a joke. This is the No-Name Skull, in the Armory)
OK now there's a big rumor that some guy found the Easter Egg of a lifetime. I myself dont know whether to believe him or not, but this is what he said: First, you collect every skull in this order. Just after you find a skull, save and quit, then go to the next one. After you find all the skulls, go to Delta Halo. Some of you may know about the floating switch at the end of the level. You need 2 people to get to it(i myself have never done it but i know it is there), but when you activate the switch, restart the level. Now buddy said something about there being a locked door somewhere, but now it will be open. he said that inside, there will be some sort of "shrine"(which sounds really unbelievable) where on the walls will be stuff written by bungie telling you where every easter egg in the game is.
If you ask me, it sounds like crap, but you never know. I wouldnt try to do this, but if it works you could be missing a lot. He wont even give any pictures or anything of the so called Shrine, only to the four people that never doubted him from the beginning.
ciao --Addero

Posted by: Addero on March 29, 2005 4:15 PM

hm, sounds interesting
i dunno though, it could very very easily be fake...

Posted by: jeff on March 29, 2005 6:22 PM

I have a strong belief that the long-ass Halo 2 Soundtrack acronym stands for the skulls found in the Halo 2 campaign:

EGATFIBGBCSIMAW

Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Ice Cream
Mythic
Angry
Whuppopotamus

Taken fron catche002.map on X drive whenever Halo 2 gets loaded:

Envy.Grunt Birthday Party.Assassins.Thunderstorm.Famine.I Would Have Been Your Daddy.Blind.Ghost.Black Eye.Catch.Sputnik.Ice Cream.Mythic.Angry.Whuppopotamus.ASSASSINS.JUGGERNAUT.NOSFERATU.SAY WHAT?.HUDLESS.DISEMBODIED SOUL.MAKEOVER.Watch your back, the Covenant are having a sale on Active Camo..Brace yourself for baddies with overshields and boomsticks..Sure you're tough, but now you must suck to survive..Be poised if other emotional scenes tend to errupt..Go commando! Clear your screen of pesky status indicators..Experience the miserable existence of the Disembodied Soul..Who says the Masterchief always has to wear green?.On.Off.

Posted by: Johm on March 30, 2005 5:24 AM

Oooh ... On.Off. That's the key! ;-) Yeah, anyway, I KNOW Halo is the deepest, most Easter-Eggy FPS to ever come out. But considering the time Bungie had to develop this, and the amount of work they had to do, there's no way they could do any of the stuff you guys think they do. They're good, but they're not ... magic elves, or something like that. Also, Bungie isn't going to have a shrine that gives away all of their precious secrets. They took their time to hide them, they're not gonna give them away. I don't know what delusions you are in, but in the Collector's Edition DVD, they don't seem like they have the time to do much at all besides develop a game. The skull stuff? Well, it's quickly grown out of proportion. Think of acronyms for which you have nothing before caring about those for which everybody has almost everything.

Posted by: Smertshpionam on April 2, 2005 5:32 PM

is it true that if you find all the skulls that 2 new levels are unlocked?

Posted by: carr on April 4, 2005 3:16 PM

That's a rumor.

Posted by: Paragon on April 11, 2005 3:41 AM

the mythic skull makes flood invinsible while in vehicles.

the is another skull with no name on the level with the gondala's. it is on top of where you see the turrets when you approch the tower. it is on the other side where there is a little terris.

has any on found the skarab gun because i have.

oh and also the skull(s) with no names might be spaces in between words!

Sincerly Zombie Squisher

Posted by: Zombie Squisher on April 14, 2005 9:34 PM

Does n e one know about the miniature Master Chief Action Figure that you can supposedly find on delta halo? I've busted my ass on legendary to find it and Damnit i cant find it and another thing stop making the acronyms stand for such vile phrases. Oh and the blue screen of death, ooh just be warned...

Posted by: jaredvillhelm2002 on April 14, 2005 10:19 PM

The cheat to use infinite camo is go through a checkpoint with active camo on and then reload to the checkpoint... presto magnifico u have camo all the way thru the level. Hey if u feel like sharing sum tips with me if u plz send it to jaredvillhelm2003@yahoo.com

Posted by: jaredvillhelm2002 on April 14, 2005 10:22 PM

ice cream skull and whumpapotomuss or watever is bullshit they dont exist end of story and there is actually a !!!!! skull on delta halo right after you get off the gondolas.

Posted by: jaredvillhelm2002 on April 14, 2005 10:25 PM

well, do you know anybody that has gotten all the skulls in order and found anything different?
because im tryin my ass off to find the skulls.
thanks

Posted by: carr on April 15, 2005 2:32 PM

the MC acition figure is in a little ccuby hole where u find a pistol and SMG. its not realy a action figure its about the same size as u and is realy just a commando with no color(skin).

Posted by: Zombie Squisher on April 19, 2005 5:33 PM

"Too Bad We Stopped After Four
Refers to Marathon Saga


1 Pathways Into Darkness
2 Marathon
3 Marathon 2 Durandal
4 Marathon Infinity"
Is it just me, or does that make more sense? found it in the box acronyms link in the marathon pages. Random cuss words don't make sense. I know Bungie conirmed TBWSAF already, but I don't believe it.

Posted by: claxton on April 20, 2005 6:47 PM

Hey peeps.

I just happened to stumble across this, I'm not sure what the big deal is with the skulls. Even if getting the skulls in the right order unlock a hidden super weapon that lays out the ownage on stuff - it won't matter. Half the fun is just screwing around and playing the game for enjoyment.

If you do happen to get something amazing in a little video game on a screen, you can feel a sense of accomplishment. Wow, you unlocked a secret in a video game. You must be the man.

Anyway, after spending an hour or so reading over the posts here and having a laugh or two, I don't know why but I did think up a name for the "W" that people think is "Wordless" or "Whuppopotamus" or whatever.
--
How about "Wallhack"?
--
If the skull actually does make the enemy know where you are at all times I'd immediately think "WTF, you wallhacking fags!!11oneone11" if I was in a multiplayer.

Not that the retarded AI on legendary doesn't track you through walls anyway. Stupid AI. Whatever.

Anyway,
It might be something to consider.

I'll leave the deciphering to the pros, I'm not really interested too much in it beyond the pimp effects I can get from the skulls. The only two worth anything are envy and sputnik if you're beating the game on legendary. (Camo helps a lot for stealth strikes and sputnik makes melee easy as pie.) If you do happen to get something for doing all this, then all the better.

Sometimes its hard to beat a good challenge.

Anyway, cheers peeps. Please don't take offensive at my post - for some reason (a curse of mine) text that I write comes across as very harsh when I didn't intend it to be.


Peace
~Vib

Posted by: Vib on April 26, 2005 2:04 AM

well, on monday, new levels came out and i downloaded 2 of the 4. ( the other 2 cost $6). but anyway, there is a rumor that in the beginning of May, all your friends list and all your stats will be erased. is that true.

peace out

Posted by: carr on April 27, 2005 3:53 PM

No, it's not true.

Posted by: mnemesis on April 29, 2005 12:49 PM

Actually, its part true. Stats will be leveled either as the new playlist is implemented,or soon after.

Posted by: deepfriedninja on April 29, 2005 1:27 PM

Perhaps SABABWL could be something like:

Songs About Blasting Alien Bastards (With Love)

I'm less sure about the last two words.

The C in MRTEFCFY could stand for 'celestial' since the highest ranked people in both games get a cool symbol.

Posted by: perniciousJ on April 29, 2005 1:37 PM

Regarding the latest....
TOFTMTWCLMB

Those old fucks that moved to wideload can lick my balls.

with assisting credit to Sep7imus

:o)

Posted by: ICDedPpl on April 29, 2005 3:17 PM

I think the HalPC "ILWNL" is for "I Love Winning Not Losing"

Posted by: Chryton on April 29, 2005 7:24 PM

IOHBOY= "Idiots Of Hell Bitch On/Over You" ???

Posted by: Chryton on April 29, 2005 7:35 PM

JNAMSFTFY

Maybe, "Just not as much shield for the fight, yo."
Who knows.
Man... too many levels of thought in this game...

Gamertag
Suicidesamuraiz

Posted by: Christopher Bowes on April 30, 2005 10:08 AM

JFCIREDTSSMBTBSDTFTVSPSBCYCM.

Posted by: For Shaolin on May 3, 2005 10:20 PM

does any body wanna be my friend on xbox live?
my gamertag is "FootedPanda"
i know its gay but i wanted sweet n' low, but microsoft said "no, some body already has that name, here's 1 just for ya"
so ya
peace

Posted by: carr on May 4, 2005 3:41 PM

Sorry if you guys already know this.

I recently visited www.ilovebees.com and noticed that they there is a new countdown on the page. As of writing this the countdown is at 199973 days or about aobut 548 years. This leads to the question of a countdown to what. So I looked through the html document of the page and noticed this:

var chinatime = new Date(2552,10,9,6,7,0);

The most significant part of this is the 2552 part. The year 2552 is when Halo takes place.
Subtract 548 from that and you get around 2004. That is the year Halo 2 was released. I'm not sure what to make of this information. It could be another piece of the puzzle or a load of bs.

In an interview between EGM and a Bungie employee, the employee was quoted "There are secrets in Halo 1 that no one has even found yet". So you might want to try going through Halo 1 to see if there are any hints to these puzzles.

Posted by: Paragon on May 8, 2005 1:13 AM

Did anyone notice in the Halo 2 Credits, when people are giving those short little 40 character things after the "all the people we didn't have room to 7hank" part, one person's is - "SIOHBOY. Stop playing on easy, Ben."

Posted by: Robert Ewing on May 9, 2005 10:31 AM

one of my friends is a "nerd" and he goes to codejunkies.com. but he saw something that is very interesting. it says you can use the scarb gun on xbox live. if that is true, well god damn give me the gun. and another one is that level in halo 1 that is all ice and its shaped like a horseshoe (i dont have halo 1 as you can tell)
-.-" but anyway it says you can play that level in halo 2. please tell me if this is a damn rumor or not.
peace

Posted by: carr on May 9, 2005 4:48 PM

oh. thank you. BUT where do you download it? at codejunkies.com or helpcarr.com (thats a fake address) XO
peace

Posted by: carr on May 9, 2005 8:24 PM

Sorry, I misunderstood the information I read. It was Wizard they remade, not Sidewinder. Wizard, Turf, Containment, and Sanctuary are up for download on Xbox live. If you don't have Xbox live you can wait until 6/28/05 when they release the Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack.

Posted by: Paragon on May 10, 2005 10:59 AM

no, it said "play sidewider on halo 2!" and i went to redvsblue.com and took a tour of the new levels. adn wizard is NOT one of the new levels. its warlock. i have 2 of the 4. and the only ice level is containment. so, ya. plus about the scarb gun thing, my friend downloaded it and it was fake... as i guessed. so, thanks for all your help.

now a new subject... HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET THE DAMN IWIWYD or something like that SKULL!
peace

Posted by: carr on May 10, 2005 3:01 PM

The IWHBYD(I would have been your daddy) is probably one of the hardest skulls to get. You have to fight 21 elites on legendary. The elites comes in separate waves. First one elite, then two and so one until you get to six. No one is sure of the prerequisites to the fight. If you want to try it anyway you can go to the skull/theories faq on www.gamefaqs.com or scroll up until you see that big ass faq.

Posted by: Paragon on May 11, 2005 12:35 AM

i actully copy and pasted all the damn info about the skulls. i found 8 of the 15 skulls thanks to that.
i can never get that one checkpoint..DAMN IT!
anyway, thanks.
peace

Posted by: carr on May 11, 2005 6:19 PM

i heard that there are going to be 5 more new maps for halo 2. can anybody tell me a website to me so i can see them.
thanks
o ya
PEACE!

Posted by: carr on May 16, 2005 7:55 PM

Go to www.gamestop.com Look up Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack. It will list all of the maps.

Posted by: Paragon on May 17, 2005 2:55 AM

thanks. $20 is alot for 5 damn maps. alwell Paragon do you play xbox live because ill send you a friend request
anybody else just tell me
im a level 14!
peace!

Posted by: carr on May 23, 2005 3:18 PM

Where is this acronym on the halo 2 limited edition collectors box? I have it and I don't see it!?

Posted by: eventual chaos on June 1, 2005 7:20 PM

Did anyone notice in the Halo 2 Credits, when people are giving those short little 40 character things after the "all the people we didn't have room to 7hank" part, one person's is - "SIOHBOY. Stop playing on easy, Ben."

Posted by: Robert Ewing on May 9, 2005 10:31 AM

Just a thought, but could it be: "Sigh, oh boy stop playing on easy, Ben"?... It's not actually an acronym, but it works doesn't it?

Posted by: loonieboy on June 1, 2005 9:12 PM

I know all the answers!!! but its a secret:

add my msn address and maybe ill tell you (zane_69@hotmail.com)

Posted by: Rammstein89 on June 4, 2005 10:42 PM

this Rammstein89 guy sounds like a child malestor. i dont know and i dont wanna know. but anyway, when so the new halo 2 maps come out. im lost because im listening to van halen "jump" and i went to the beach for a week.
thanks
peace

Posted by: carr on June 6, 2005 4:04 PM

how about:

Envy
Ghost
Anger
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Grunt Birthday party
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Assassins
WTF?! (cause thats what ppl think when there isnt a name for the armoury skull)

Posted by: huh? on June 19, 2005 6:37 AM

Quote from Johm:

"Taken fron catche002.map on X drive whenever Halo 2 gets loaded:

Envy.Grunt Birthday Party.Assassins.Thunderstorm.Famine.I Would Have Been Your Daddy.Blind.Ghost.Black Eye.Catch.Sputnik.Ice Cream.Mythic.Angry.Whuppopotamus.ASSASSINS.JUGGERNAUT.NOSFERATU.SAY WHAT?.HUDLESS.DISEMBODIED SOUL.MAKEOVER.Watch your back, the Covenant are having a sale on Active Camo..Brace yourself for baddies with overshields and boomsticks..Sure you're tough, but now you must suck to survive..Be poised if other emotional scenes tend to errupt..Go commando! Clear your screen of pesky status indicators..Experience the miserable existence of the Disembodied Soul..Who says the Masterchief always has to wear green?.On.Off."

where is exactly this supposed to be taken from? a modded xbox?
Atm, I really don't trust this source... "X drive"? whats going on with all those dots and spaces? file addresses dont have double dots or spaces, or question and exclamation marks for that matter! and why is there reference to Ice Cream and Whuppopotamus when they arent even skulls?

if this was genuine though, this may be suggesting an order to the skulls...
in which case Ghost and Grunt b'day are the other way around, as are Anger and Assaassins. but blind and black eye are the same way around as in above posts, as are IWHBYD and Iron. so the new order might look like this:

Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Anger
W...? (Whuppopotamus?!)

and then the rest of that catche002.map seems to hint at the effects of the skulls (nearly all of which are proven now; see highimpacthalo.com if you want to check what they all do).
"Watch your back, the Covenant are having a sale on Active Camo" = Assassins (all covenent permanently invisible) /Envy (chief gets active camo)
"baddies with overshields" = Mythic? - believed to give enemies more health
"now you must suck to survive" = (suck as in punch?) Black Eye - melee enemies to death to charge shield
"other emotional scenes tend to errupt" = IWHBYD - stress on other, as in new scences, like the new dialog unlocked by IWHBYD
"Clear your screen of pesky status indicators" = Blind - removes the HUD
"miserable existence of the Disembodied Soul" = Ghost? - makes enemies take longer to react to you

"Who says the Masterchief always has to wear green?"
now this is the most interesting! this suggests the nature of the easter egg. obviously bungie would have to have all the animations and what-not kitted out for many different colours of Spartans, because you can select a colour in/for multiplayer, so it cant be too hard to replace green chief with some other colour. sounds like a pretty plausible egg, but if its only a temporary colour change, is it worth going through and getting all the eggs in order?

btw, the easy way for anyone to try and get the skulls in order is to download the correct checkpoint. if you have one of those XBox action reply save cartriges thingys or whatever they're called, download the checkpoints just before the skulls from highimpacthalo.com

Posted by: huh? on June 19, 2005 9:22 AM

I KNOW WUT IOBOY MEENS IO(the greek thing for oh yeah) Halo Beaten Oh Yeah

I WONDER IF THATS IT HMMMM!!!!

Posted by: Cody on June 23, 2005 9:01 PM

Well, I was looking around on the staff page for bungie and there was only one guy that had a "B" name and that was Bill O'Brien so maybe IOHBOY could be "I owned Bill, oh yeah" or the more abvious "I owned Bill O' YEAH!!!!"

Posted by: EGRcrazykiller on June 26, 2005 4:12 PM

IOHBOY means I'm only hear because of you
SIOHBOY means Sid, I'm only here because of you

(Look at the MP maps in H2, there are numerous cluse saying that this is correct. IE = messages saying "sid - not here" and stuff like that.)

: )

Posted by: S.O.G. on June 29, 2005 2:36 PM

Envy
Grunt Birthday Party
Assassins
Thunderstorm
Famine
I Would Have Been Your Daddy
Blind
Ghost
Black Eye
Catch
Sputnik
Iron
Mythic
Anger
Winner

Don't you know? Winner skull is when you get all the skulls in order! I read it in two places!

Posted by: jordanware on June 29, 2005 9:49 PM

wow you are stupid, why would you even believe that

Posted by: deadtaiwan on July 2, 2005 5:09 PM

Well, it fits, doesn't it? It might be true.

Posted by: Legendary on July 2, 2005 5:44 PM

"IOHBOY means I'm only hear because of you
SIOHBOY means Sid, I'm only here because of you


(Look at the MP maps in H2, there are numerous cluse saying that this is correct. IE = messages saying "sid - not here" and stuff like that.)"

I'm guessnig Sid had something to do with bringing the old Halo CE maps back.

Posted by: z!nk on July 7, 2005 12:05 PM

so where did you hear about a winner skull??

Posted by: poop on July 9, 2005 8:41 PM

sup ladies, i just came back from a 2 week vacation. while i was gone, the new halo 2 multiplayer game came out. so tell me how it is and i'll think about buying it.
peace

Posted by: carr on July 10, 2005 7:17 PM

ILWNL

"In Luke's Words: Not Likely"

Posted by: Destructor on July 13, 2005 5:07 PM

TOFTMTWCLMB :(

Posted by: Antagonist on July 16, 2005 10:18 PM

I found a new one on the back of the Trocadero RvB soundtrack:

DMUKYA

Posted by: JTF183 on July 22, 2005 3:18 PM

It might be completely unrelated though.

Posted by: JTF183 on July 22, 2005 3:20 PM

Update: It's the same one as on the Marathon box...

Posted by: JTF183 on July 24, 2005 1:57 PM

Yes, "Don't make us kick your ass."

Posted by: Destructor on July 25, 2005 3:34 AM

i know what iohboy means ..... it stands for "It's on high bridge over yonder" a clue to where the scarab gun is ...

Posted by: Dave321 on July 25, 2005 7:43 PM

I don't know if anybody has allready posted this (Because I didn't have time nor energy to read all here), but what if all you get when you have taken all skulls, in correct order, is a menu that let's you turn 'em on and off. Cause both me and my buddy thinks it's really strange that there isn't.
BTW, has anyone tried playing thru the entire game, cellecting all skulls in the same sitting. Without ever quit that current game?

Posted by: Cloudius on July 28, 2005 4:08 AM

I wonder if there is something that has to do with the area in Delta Halo where you find the skull that gives Master Chief invisiblity. The box/stone thing you jump on to get up to the platform with the invisble elites & skull seems to be blocking a room. You can't move the box, but I wonder if there actually is a room there?

Just a thought.

Posted by: slade24 on August 4, 2005 12:36 PM

Actually, you can get in that room. You can either move the box (which takes quite a bit of explosives) or you can simply walk arround to the rear entrance as it is unblocked. Inside is a dead grunt and a sword if I remember correctly.

Posted by: ekim on August 4, 2005 6:21 PM

Well SIOHBOY is kinda of as easy one if you think of the new news over at High Impact Halo. A man has found that IOHBOY is on Keyes SMG on Legendary in a cutscene, which relates to SIOHBOY, stop playing on easy Ben. I mean the S could stand for SMG for the only way you can see it is if you play on legendary.

Posted by: EGRcrazykiller on August 8, 2005 12:25 PM

ILWNL: I Like What Neil Likes.

Posted by: Destructor on August 10, 2005 12:24 AM

What if the "W" stands for "Wraith"? What would happen if you got all the skulls, then got in a Wraith? Just a thought...

Posted by: Master Cheese on August 10, 2005 10:08 PM

I ran a search on TOFTMTWCLMB and I came up with this from a website, which is a random cyborg name generator:

Technician Optimized for Fighting and Terran Mathematics/Transforming Wireless Construct Limited to Mandatory Battle

*shrugs* It can only have 11 letters on the name generator, at it just so happens to be 11 letters.

Posted by: ItalianChia on August 11, 2005 12:01 AM

the noname scull is #3

Posted by: dillon on August 17, 2005 3:42 PM

my friend picked up a scull athe the mc turned invisible like the cov.
you can pick up the no name in co op!

Posted by: stealth on August 17, 2005 3:44 PM

ILWNL -> I Love Winning Not Losing

*shrug*

Posted by: jim on August 20, 2005 2:10 AM

A guess at TATRTSTS:

This Ain't Traditional Real Time Strategy Tough Shot.

Posted by: MrHen on August 24, 2005 12:15 PM

I was wondering you know Technician Optimized for Fighting and Terran Mathematics/Transforming Wireless Construct Limited to Mandatory Battle all sounds alot like stuff in the books think about Optimized for Fighting,Mandatory Battle,Wireless Construct. Construct-Cortana,Mantatory Battle-Covenant threat, Opimized for fighting-MAster Chief?

Posted by: Pooter on August 28, 2005 8:19 PM

I found this while googling, trying to find something that could help with the skull puzzle. Click on the Ray Bradbury section and read the poem. It mentions several of the Skull names, and the site is a transcript of a Panel Discussion at Nasa on the subject of Exploration (which led to the discovery of the skulls in the first place).

The poem mentions several of the skull names, and Bradbury wrote a play called "The Incredible Ice Cream Suit". I think there may be clues here =)

Posted by: Brigand on September 1, 2005 2:27 AM

Heh, I suppose the link itself might help, eh?

http://history.nasa.gov/EP-125/contents.htm

Posted by: Brigand on September 1, 2005 2:30 AM

wouldnt it make sense to pick up the skulls in chronological level order? like with the "I" skulls put the one in outskirts "IWHBYD" before "IRON" and for all the other ones just follow the acronym.....idontfuckenknow

Posted by: Lord_Pi on September 9, 2005 2:28 PM

hey who here has xbox live and lives in Fort Myers Florida. just wondering. and by the way, who here thinks Team Snipers on xbox live should be ranked?
peace out

Posted by: carr on September 12, 2005 5:42 PM

Y'know, I'm kinda curious. I'm not a Halo newb, but I'm a live nOOb, and Just wonderin, What is the monthly fee in ohio? BTW, when tryin to get the S. gun, I saw the IOHBOY, and didn't even think of the acronymys till I read THIS WHOLE NEVERENDING PAGE!!! I will do some searching on bungie, and email the team. I will solve this!!!!
Sorry....I'm a freak... -_-

Posted by: Cluless_MC on September 16, 2005 9:16 PM

i think that theres some hidden politicial information in EGATFIBGBCSIMAW. A suggestion is... everyone gets a taste for it but george bush can see it making a war

Posted by: tone loke 22 on September 23, 2005 11:35 AM

I'm gonna think out loud here, maybe help with the MRTEFCFY acronym...

I had heard that on Ivory Tower, at some part of the level, you can hear a song from Myth. Is this the connection between Halo 2 and Myth: TFL he was talking about?

Perhaps that may help some people out. :)

Posted by: z!nk on October 5, 2005 2:59 PM

HINTS, BUNGIE! Give us HINTS!

Posted by: Mintz on October 7, 2005 4:13 PM

Personally I feel that someone- sorry it's a L-O-N-G page and i can't be bothered to check- was correct when they suggested "Worry"

Think about it...

You have the Anger skull and the Envy skulls. Aren't those 2 of the stages of rampancy? So why can't the W be a differently phrased version of Despair?

Posted by: Cake on October 13, 2005 8:10 PM

soz but i cant be botherd to read the whole page way too big but wat is an acronym where did they cum from and did any1 solve that sckull one. By the way y do u all think there is sum major secret that u unlock by geting sculls in sum order

Posted by: lorcan on October 20, 2005 5:40 PM

HEY PEOPLE FOUND SUM REALLY COOOOL STUFF THAT WILL HELP YOU ALLSOLVE THE SKULL ACRONYM THING I THINK. as SUM BODY AL;READY SAID IF YOU PUT THE DATE TIME OF YOU XBOX LIKE THIS: 7.07 07/07/07 THEN GO TO ZANZIBAR THE NO SWIMMING SIGN TURNS TO "DID YOU FIND LING LINGS HEAD" WIT A PICTURE OF A SICKO DOG AND THEN WEN U GO TO HEADLONG LEVEL GO INTO THE BUILDING WIT LOADS OF LEVELS THERE WILL B A MESSAGE SAYING "PART OF THE SOLUTION WIT SUM REALLY TINY WRITING ICANT READ UNDERNEATH THEIR IS ALSO A PIC OFG A HIPPOS HEAD ON THE WALL THESE ARE THE ONLY MULTIPLAYER LEVEWLS IV SEARCHED FOR COOL STUFF SO THERE COULD B MORE MESSAGES HOPE THIS HELPS C YAS

PS I DONT CHECK MY EMAIL SO DONT SEND NETING TO IT

Posted by: lorcan on October 21, 2005 1:18 PM

Here's a new one - if this list is even still active.


Halo 3-Pack: IKWTMCTCUWIWSTSOS

Posted by: Toogs on November 12, 2005 9:50 PM

IOHBOY - I'm Outta Here Bitch. Oh Yeah!

Posted by: Xraf on November 16, 2005 10:59 AM

ok ive seen "jeff was not here" written on the wall in coagulation (in one of the caves

and


what are the skull numbers for ive seen the black eye one

Posted by: halo? on November 19, 2005 5:27 PM

i can´t believe it, i got in this site a year ago when the mystery of the acronym was still young, so i decided to see what the answer was and i find out IT'S STILL A MYSTERY!!!

WTF BUNGIE!!! GIVE US SOME HINTS!!!!!!!!
WE ARE NOT COMPUTERS!!!!!

Posted by: emongev on November 23, 2005 5:56 PM

MY VEIW ON ALL OF THIS FORUM, REGARDING THE SKULLS AND BUNGIE:

(sorry for long-as-heck post)

I am now going to think out loud- Please ignore if i sound weird, or say a racial comment.

First of all, Bungie isn't ever going to give us hints. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. You know what? (I'm thinking out loud please ignore if I am going into maniacal lies about the cowbell skull or stuff...) I think this is just all a sick game by bungie. They're trying to keep us from finding the secrets until 2007. I think, (Once again please ignore me if i go into maniacal lies...) that they actually log on as diffrent accounts on sites like this, And either post lies about the skulls to slow us down, Or randomly post "peace out" and a bunch of CRAP that has nothing to do with the Acronyms (though this could just be the omnipresent stupidity of some internet goers) to slow us down, once again. Or, They log on to sites like HIH and bungie sightings and post short, very short but crucial peices to the puzzle that just screw with out heads. You know like the 1-line messages from people with strange usernames like "Finder" or "Searchlight In The Dark" or some crap like that. Let's get this straight: INFINITE, MAJI, AND COWBELL SKULL ARE LIES. But I still beleive the theory by "drunkenpilot" or something that the No-Name Skull has a certian feild of effect, you can't just pick it up. The reason being: Skulls never get tested. They never let the testers find them; Frankie posted something like "The testers allready found my No Swimming: Sharks In Water" sign on zanzibar on the first day. Thats why we have to work hard to hide our secrets." or something like that. They dont want ANYBODY to know the secrets- Not even their own employees... See, The skulls never get tested, They are bound to have bugs! now that i am done straying off the path of my post...And the theory of setting your clock to 2007 is very beleivable, even though i never tryed it.

Oh and the dumb list of skulls, The "Winner" skull is questionable; It never appears in coding. Whuppotumbus is on Cario Station as we all know, so that makes 3 skulls...what? Are you seing a pattern here?! 3 Skulls on cario station, 2 skulls on outskirts (an extremely easter eggy level just in general) and 1 on metropolis.

Anyway, about the acronyms, Bungie just said that what, Trick bitch slut whore fucker or whatever (dont waste your time correcting this i can just scroll up) is true becuase obiously it holds an extremely critical peice to the puzzle of bungie. Bungie is known for their sarcasm and jokes, but never to this extent. Something is wrong here, folks. Oh and the "W Is Wraith! Get into a wraith at the end of the skull list." is totally dumb becuase the 2nd to last skull IS ON REGET! THERE ARENT ANY WRAITHS ON THAT LEVEL DUMBASS! And besides, with bungie leading us up to that climax with the like 3 hours long of collecting all the skulls, The last part wouldnt be as easy as walking up to a big purple vehicle and pressing X. None of their secrets-ever-have been that easy.
Oh and the link between myth and halo is that if you go into a certian level on halo 1 and go up to a ledge you can suposably hear the music from another game, Seige Of Madrigal. thats the link.

oh and that floating switch in regret, i have no idea what the hell that thing is man... no comment, but i am damn sure it has nothing to do with that "big shrine revealing all the bungie secrets". as that other guy said, BUNGIE WOULD NOT REVEAL ALL THEIR SECRETS IN ONE PLACE.

The Sketchyness Of Outskirts
-----------------------------
I wanted you all to know that outskirts is way, way, way, too big and maze-like to only have 2 skulls. and no I AM NOT SUGGUSTING THE MAJI SKULL IS REAL OKAY YOU DARN FLAMERS?! the theory that a skull is in a green box is retarded becuase you can't OPEN any boxes in halo 2, HOW would there be a skull in there. dumbass. I know this might be just some weird phyciatric thing but,

*DO NOT READ THE NEXT SENTENCE IF YOU ARE SCARED EASILY*
I have a bada$$ nightmare whenever i play that level. The rest of the day after i play that level i always keep looking around me to see if theres some weird alien thing trying to kill me.

*WHOOP scary crap is over*

anyways, thats all i have to say, i want you all to STOP TALKING ABOUT THE INFINITE SKULL, ASKING NEWBISH QUESTIONS LIKE HOW TO GET THE SCARAB GUN, OR SAYING PEACE OUT ALL THE TIME, AND GET BACK TO DISCUSSING THE ACRONYM.

You may find all this info hard to think of, But try being a ticked-off, high functioning Autism Syrdrome person. You may think of this as a big intilectual blob of text, But try living when you CAN'T STOP YOURSELF FROM THINKING! >.<lt;
Bungie's secrets are easy for a person with a restless mind...

This has been,
Freakin' weird stuff man.

Posted by: RandomGuy on November 23, 2005 10:32 PM

The site to Brigand's post about Ray Bradbury and that poem and stuff is:

http://history.nasa.gov/EP-125/part6.htm

And weirdly enough, it mentions a couple of skull names, along with a skull being the thing starting of the exploration. Coincidense? I do strongly point to it that it isn't.

Posted by: Chaoscaboose on November 25, 2005 12:46 AM

Y'know....I can't say much, but Whuppopatamus and Ice Cream are hidden in a text dump in the file called "cache002.map", and they are indeed real Here it is:
Envy.Grunt Birthday Party.Assassins.Thunderstorm.Famine.I Would Have Been Your Daddy.Blind.Ghost.Black Eye.Catch.Sputnik.Ice Cream.Mythic.Angry.Whuppopotamus.ASSASSINS.JUGGERNAUT.NOSFERATU.SAY WHAT?.HUDLESS.DISEMBODIED SOUL.MAKEOVER.Watch your back, the covenant are having a sale on active camo..Brace yourself for baddies with oversheilds and boomsticks..Sure you're tough, but know you must suck to survive..Be poised if other emotional scenes tend to errupt..Go Cammando! Clear your screen of pesky status indicators..Experience the miserable existence of the Disembodied Soul..Who says Master Chief always has to wear green?.

See, it seems to list skulls and give descriptions, and has reference ti "Ice Cream" and "Whuppopatamus". It probably won't, but hope it helps you guys...

Posted by: Cluless_MC on November 26, 2005 12:41 PM

I've read all the post, though I've not done a lot of searching for skulls myself it has occured to me that you may want to unscramble the "acronym" into something like...
E-G-A-T-F-I-B-G-B-C-S-I-M-A-W

MC IS A BIG FAT EGBW

Just a guess. In that one I'm not sure how to fit in the last 4 letters. There are several other possiblilties with the given letters, try it and see if one makes sense to you. It may reveal the correct order to find the skulls.

Also I looked at the "8" on the binoculars by the blind skull, could it be a "B" for blind instead of "8". Maybe, if it is "8", it means it is the 8th skull to find.

Lastly, I thought that possibly the no-name skull in the armory (like posted above) is picked up because you have nothing in hand. Which makes sense...Here is an off-the-wall thought...It behaves as the odd ball did in the original Halo. Maybe it starts a timer, like the odd ball..and from the moment on you must find all the skulls within a certain amount of time to get the reward. That makes more sense since that it is on the first level. Just a few thoughts I had while reading the posts. Maybe they will inspire a few more in you. GL

Posted by: Jonathan on December 18, 2005 3:32 AM

Hey. Let's just F***ing get this clear. ICE CREAM AND WHUPPOTOMBOS ARE NOT SKULLS. Ice cream is a reference to a skull, such as "Ooo look jim I got ice cream" turned into "Ooo look jim i got a skull on Halo 2" Ice_Cream_Flavor is really the same exact thing exept it refers to "Flavor" as the effect of the skull. As in, "Ooo look jim my ice cream is vanilla" turned into..."Ooo look jim my skull makes explosions bigger". So stop with the "Z0MG GUyZ06Z 1 G07 T3H UB3R 1337 SKU11Z LoLz"

I Don't even know why you people are still discussing an age-old thread, but anyways, the "W" at the end of the accronym might just be "Wow...". I mean, If I went through a 15-word-long list of extremely hidden dark secrets buried beneath 20 acres of game coding, created by some of the world's most secretive people, and hidden in a XBox game, I'd probably just say "Wow...".

And also if there IS a last skull, It's in the Outskirts water. Becuase guess what? "W" means Water. I'm thinking that, just like IWHYBD, it has a SH!Tload of triggers. And besides come on we have been finding IWHYBD for like 10 months now and we still don't know the trigger. Try this: Set your XBox clocks to 2007 and everything else a 7. Then collect all the skulls in the order mentioned in the accroynm. Then pick up Unnamed. Go FAR FAR far out into the Outskirts water and find the building with the discolored door. It should be open. Go inside and whoopedy-doo. Last skull. (Though all I just said was a theorie and based on blind faith)

Happy day. Stop posting spam.

Posted by: RandomGuy on December 28, 2005 2:40 PM

so... halo 3 is coming out this year (2006) and its only for xbox 360 which i have *coughs* but anyway, i heard that there will be 50 player xbox live matchmaking. now that is unbelievable. and the rumor is that halo 3 will come out the same day as ps3, for a sales compation. so see ya online and uhh... i wonder if there will be any skulls on halo 3...
PEACE

Posted by: carr on February 8, 2006 9:48 PM

Could SABABWL be Songs About Blasting Alien Ba*****ds With Lead?

And could MNNGSBTFS be something like My Name Never Gets Shown/Seen Before The First/Fourth/Final Scene? That's a tough acronym to speculate on but maybe this is a start.

Finally, why hasn't this been updated recently? I've seen a few really good guesses for some acronyms and a new one was recently discovered on the Halo 3 pack but it still hasn't been added.

Posted by: mister chief on April 1, 2006 10:00 PM
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